From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default (WAS: Some developement questions) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:48:11 +0300 Message-ID: <8336ugo4p0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83o9d5q1bi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536651978 10040 195.159.176.226 (11 Sep 2018 07:46:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 11 09:46:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdNF-0002VR-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:46:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdPL-0004Gg-Ql for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdPF-0004Ga-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdPE-0004q8-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdP6-0004jd-9x; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1805 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fzdOz-0005wt-Mb; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:48:02 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:22:18 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229665 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, > npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:22:18 -0400 > > As for shift selection, that uses keyboard commands, so I think it is > natural to treat them like other keyboard commands in this regard. > But I don't use shift selection, so I would be inclined to follow the > preferences of users that really do use shift selection. I'd create > a separate setting to control this case, then set the default based on > their preferences. Shift selection follows a feature of many applications out there, and AFAIK they all behave with such selections as with mouse selections. It is actually a more fine-grained selection mechanism, since mouse selection frequently doesn't let you select partial words, or exclude punctuation from the selection, at least not easily. So I think we don't need a separate option for shift selection, it already behaves like those who use it expect.