From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: dr.khaled.hosny@gmail.com, behdad@behdad.org,, far.nasiri.m@gmail.com
Cc: 33729@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com
Subject: bug#33729: 27.0.50; Partial glyphs not rendered for Gujarati with Harfbuzz enabled (renders fine using m17n)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:58:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8336qsc9fl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mup4du5z.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:55:52 +0200)
Ping! Could someone on the Harfbuzz team please comment on the
thoughts below? Khaled, Mohammad, Behdad?
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:55:52 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: dr.khaled.hosny@gmail.com, behdad@behdad.org, 33729@debbugs.gnu.org,
> far.nasiri.m@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com
>
> > From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> > Cc: far.nasiri.m@gmail.com, dr.khaled.hosny@gmail.com, behdad@behdad.org, 33729@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:30:00 -0500
> >
> > > After some thinking, my conclusion is that we should import the
> > > ISO 15924 database from https://unicode.org/iso15924/, use a script
> > > similar to admin/unidata/blocks.awk to generate an alist from it that
> > > maps Emacs script names to ISO 15924 tags, and then access that alist
> > > from uni_script to get the correct script information to Harfbuzz.
> > >
> > > Patches implementing that are welcome.
> >
> > I live to write awk scripts. I'm not 100% sure what you want, but as a
> > first example, the following takes
> > http://www.unicode.org/Public/UCD/latest/ucd/PropertyValueAliases.txt
> > as input and outputs lines of the form "(gujr . gujarati)".
> >
> > The aliases are so that the RHS matches charscript.el.
> >
> > If this is not right, please clarify exactly what the inputs and output
> > should be.
>
> Thanks.
>
> It turns out I didn't have this figured out completely, and your
> proposal forced me to dig some more into the relevant parts of Unicode
> and Emacs. I found a few additional issues and considerations; for at
> least some of them I'd like to hear the opinions of the Harfbuzz
> developers.
>
> Here are the issues:
>
> . Contrary to my original thoughts, I now tend to think that a
> separate char-table, say char-iso159240tag-table, that maps
> character codepoints directly to the script tags, is a better
> solution:
> - it will allow a faster look up, obviously
> - the subdivision of characters into scripts, as shown in
> Unicode's Scripts.txt, is slightly different from what
> char-script-table does, so a simple mapping from Emacs scripts
> to ISO 15924 script tag will not do. For example, many
> characters Emacs puts into 'latin' or 'symbol' scripts are in
> the Common script according to Scripts.txt, and similarly for
> the Inherited script. I imagine this is important for
> Harfbuzz.
>
> . Whether to produce the character-to-script-tag mapping using the
> UCD files, such as Scripts.txt and PropertyValueAliases.txt, or the
> canonical ISO 15924 tags from https://unicode.org/iso15924/,
> depends on whether the slight differences mentioned in
> https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr24/#Relation_To_ISO15924 matter
> for Harfbuzz. For example, ISO 15924 has separate tags for the
> Fraktur and Gaelic varieties of the Latin script: does this
> distinction matter for Harfbuzz?
>
> . Does Harfbuzz handle the issues mentioned in
> https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr24/#Script_Anomalies, and in
> particular the use case of decomposed characters which yield a
> different script than their precomposed variants? This use case is
> quite common in handling of character compositions, so it's
> important to understand its implications before we decide on the
> implementation.
>
> To summarize, unless the Harfbuzz guys advise differently, I'd prefer
> processing Scripts.txt and PropertyValueAliases.txt into a list
> similar to the one we produce in charscript.el, then generate a
> char-table from that list.
>
> Thanks again for working on this.
>
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-13 20:20 bug#33729: 27.0.50; Partial glyphs not rendered for Gujarati with Harfbuzz enabled (renders fine using m17n) Kaushal Modi
2018-12-13 20:25 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-12-13 20:31 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-13 20:43 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-12-13 20:53 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-13 21:04 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-12-14 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-14 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-14 7:50 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-14 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-14 11:03 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-14 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-14 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-17 0:30 ` Glenn Morris
2018-12-17 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-20 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-12-20 20:45 ` Behdad Esfahbod
2018-12-22 8:54 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-22 9:06 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-22 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22 15:15 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-22 15:27 ` Behdad Esfahbod
2018-12-22 15:42 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-22 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22 15:49 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-22 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22 20:59 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-23 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-23 13:51 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-23 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-24 2:08 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-24 4:12 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-12-24 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-24 17:37 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-24 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-05 21:15 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-01-06 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-29 22:25 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-29 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-05 20:53 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-01-05 21:04 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-01-06 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-29 22:33 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-01-06 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-29 22:29 ` Khaled Hosny
2022-04-29 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 13:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-24 17:38 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2018-12-14 22:47 ` Khaled Hosny
2018-12-16 14:47 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2018-12-14 6:45 ` Paul Eggert
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