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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Finding the dump
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:41:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8336pc4wmx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4l9ttbc3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:53:33 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:53:33 -0500
> 
> > I plan to look into the possibility of putting the dump file inside
> > the executable (portably, of course) so that Emacs startup needn't
> > worry about finding the dump file. This would be significantly better
> > for installers and users.
> 
> Allowing the dump file to be a shebang-executable is easy, doesn't
> require a C compiler at dump-time, and works well under GNU/Linux.
> It can't be "the only way" because it works less well under MacOS and
> not at all under Windows (IIUC), but I see no reason not to support it.

Its relative complexity is such a reason, IMO.

By contrast, opening and reading a file is simple, is portable, and
works well.  The issue with finding it via argv[0] is relatively
simple to solve.  And if we for some reason decide that argv[0] is not
reliable enough, I already mentioned up-thread an alternative of using
platform-specific techniques to obtain the full absolute file name of
the executable without relying on argv[0].

I see no reason to increase complexity and introduce methods that
expose system dependencies on the user level due to the issue that
started this thread.  IME, having OS-dependent differences in Emacs
invocation and installation is a disadvantage, it complicates the user
manual and bug-reporting instructions, if nothing else.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-28 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-23 13:15 Finding the dump Stefan Monnier
2019-01-23 13:46 ` Robert Pluim
2019-01-23 15:13   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-23 13:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-23 15:17   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-23 15:37     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-23 15:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-23 16:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-23 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-23 16:02   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-23 16:04   ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-23 16:38   ` Robert Pluim
2019-01-23 17:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 12:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 15:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-26 15:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 15:44             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-26 17:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 20:44                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 15:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 15:46                     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 15:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 16:37                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 16:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 17:00                             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 18:26                           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-27 18:46                             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 18:58                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-27 19:27                               ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-27 19:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-28  1:06                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-27 20:12                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 21:25                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-27 21:37                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 23:47                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28  0:32                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-28  1:21                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28  1:29                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-28 19:03                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-01-28 19:23                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28 23:09                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-29  8:50                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-01-31  2:21                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-02-01  0:23                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-01  2:09                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-02-02  3:25                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-02  7:23                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-03  4:36                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-01  7:22                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-02  3:25                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-02  7:22                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-03  4:36                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-01-28  3:38                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-28  4:13                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28  6:28                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-28 15:35                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-28 15:57                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28 16:02                                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-28 17:39                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-01-28 19:46                                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-28  8:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-28 12:57                                           ` Fu Yuan
2019-01-28 15:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-01-28 18:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-28 19:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-28 22:30                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-27  9:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-27 10:32             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 10:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-27 10:54                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-01-27 15:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 18:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-27 19:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 18:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-26 17:27         ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-01-26 17:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 18:05             ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-01-26 18:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 20:05                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-01-26 20:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
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