From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fatal error 11: Segmentation Fault Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:48:03 +0300 Message-ID: <8336mzdr9o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86imvx5gyz.fsf@zoho.eu> <86ef6l5dwk.fsf@zoho.eu> <86a7h85ru5.fsf@zoho.eu> <878swsz5v2.fsf@telefonica.net> <86zhp83qrb.fsf@zoho.eu> <86sgv03qcw.fsf@zoho.eu> <86o95o3pzk.fsf@zoho.eu> <87sguzyje0.fsf@telefonica.net> <86tvffhf05.fsf@zoho.eu> <83r2ajek6k.fsf@gnu.org> <86a7h7hcxq.fsf@zoho.eu> <83o95neine.fsf@gnu.org> <86zhp7futi.fsf@zoho.eu> <83mul7efrf.fsf@gnu.org> <86sguzy1al.fsf@zoho.eu> <83imvveccx.fsf@gnu.org> <86o95nxj8i.fsf@zoho.eu> <835zrvdul7.fsf@gnu.org> <8636mzxhka.fsf@zoho.eu> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="56371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 18:01:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hBiKi-000EX0-B7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:01:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55656 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBiKh-0005Vk-A2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 12:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBiIc-0003za-8y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBi7D-0003F5-7Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2744 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hBi7B-0000ey-Ki for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:47:50 -0400 In-reply-to: <8636mzxhka.fsf@zoho.eu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Wed, 03 Apr 2019 16:57:25 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119877 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 16:57:25 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Which brings us right to the beginning: users > > aren't requested to debug problems, only > > report as much useful details as possible. > > The backtrace output by Emacs is such > > a detail. > > Users are not requested to do anything, they do > exactly what they want, and some of them might > _want_ to do it, and the documentation should > therefore be more clear on how to use GDB in > the most basic way, is what I'm saying. > Mr. Fuentes just provided a good list with > example commands. Why not use it? So you insist on another circle, although we've made a full one already?