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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: evaluating numbers
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 13:48:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8336ex9sow.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F935F251-C439-4136-A94D-43312B62EE7B@traduction-libre.org> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:18:58 +0900)

> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:18:58 +0900
> 
> > But I see no reason to continue questioning the default any further.
> 
> I'm not questioning the default, I'm trying to understand a feature and it's default setting. Apologies if that takes time.

I'm happy to explain what is still unclear.  It seemed to me that the
latest questions all aim at asking why not do something other than the
default, they don't ask clarifications about the feature, which is
really quite simple.  Apologies if this is my misunderstanding.

> >> If we have a function like (char-after) that is defined as "Return(ing) character in current buffer at position POS." then it should do that for all the characters defined in the emacs supported character set, shouldn't it?
> > 
> > Characters are just integers in Emacs.
> 
> I know that. You're not really answering the above question. When people expect a character to be returned, they expect a character and not a code point.

I don't think I agree, not when you say it in such general form.  It
is definitely possible that the user does want to see the codepoint.
I know I sometimes do.

> How useful is:
> 
> (decode-char 'emacs 345)
> 345 (#o531, #x159)
> 
> ?
> 
> I already know that the code point is 345.

Yes, but did you know its octal and hex codes as well?  I sometimes do
the above, or something similar, for those reasons.

> > If you want to suggest a different way of looking for a suitable font, please do.
> 
> Maybe not "look for a suitable font" but set a default font for that action. There is a finite number of standard fonts on systems that support emacs.

Unfortunately, the last sentence is in general incorrect.  The reality
is that no font (at least none that I know of) supports all of
Unicode, so we will need to have several fonts from which to select.
And that is tricky if you want the result work on all platforms.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-09 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07  9:43 evaluating numbers Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07  9:57 ` Stephen Berman
2019-11-07 10:20   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07 10:30     ` Stephen Berman
2019-11-07 10:40       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07 14:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08  0:36           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-08 10:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 12:23               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-08 13:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-09  0:20                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09  7:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 13:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09  0:15                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09  7:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 11:18                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09 11:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-11-10  0:59                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-10  8:06                             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-10 20:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 20:28                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 22:05                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-12 22:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-12 23:30                                       ` Drew Adams
2019-11-13  8:10                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-13 14:47                                           ` Drew Adams
2019-11-14 12:45                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 22:50                                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 23:40                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-15  8:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14  9:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14  9:46                               ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-14 11:36                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:55                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 13:59                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-14 14:17                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 21:44                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-14 14:03                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-14 14:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 17:10                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-14 18:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 18:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15  8:32                                       ` Štěpán Němec
2019-11-15 14:54                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 15:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 15:32                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 15:55                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:00                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:11                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-15 16:33                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17  2:15                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-17 20:02                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-18 16:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 16:54                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-18 17:05                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 13:00                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-20 16:40                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 17:09                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-20 17:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19  6:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-19  9:50                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 15:53                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:13                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 16:43                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16 20:40                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-17 17:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 21:16                                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 22:56                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-09 16:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-10  0:22                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-10  4:47                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-13 23:02                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:52                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14  9:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 11:35                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:37                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-14 14:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 10:36                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-15 13:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-28 14:52                                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-28 15:05                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-28 17:28                                           ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-28 23:16                                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  0:08                                             ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-29  0:21                                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  7:08                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29  8:00                                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:23                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29  3:49                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:51                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 10:09                                               ` Po Lu
2020-04-30  2:34                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30  3:04                                                 ` Stefan Monnier

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