From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41026: Improve documentation of `makunbound' and `fmakunbound' Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 17:21:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83368hqeud.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sggisacb.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnbm4e1r.fsf@stefankangas.se> <83o8r6s9g0.fsf@gnu.org> <87a72q3wyy.fsf@stefankangas.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83918"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41026@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 03 16:22:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFVT-000LiQ-UK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 16:22:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34670 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFVS-0003SF-V2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFVL-0003RJ-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFVL-0001ny-Ae for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFVL-00020c-7W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:22:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 14:22:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41026 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41026-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41026.15885156947661 (code B ref 41026); Sun, 03 May 2020 14:22:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41026) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2020 14:21:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFUr-0001zV-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33778) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFUl-0001zC-2U for 41026@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:21:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFUf-0001gE-Po; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4369 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVFUd-0000VA-3v; Sun, 03 May 2020 10:21:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a72q3wyy.fsf@stefankangas.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 02 May 2020 22:25:57 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179589 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: 41026@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 22:25:57 +0200 > > Thanks. Based on your feedback, this is what I came up with. WDYT? LGTM, thanks. > BTW, according to (elisp) Function Cells: > > Note that void is not the same as ‘nil’ or the symbol ‘void’. The > symbols ‘nil’ and ‘void’ are Lisp objects, and can be stored into a > function cell just as any other object can be (and they can be valid > functions if you define them in turn with ‘defun’). A void function > cell contains no object whatsoever. > > So I suppose that means that the old `fmakunbound' docstring was > incorrect in saying: "Make SYMBOL's function definition be nil."? I think it just said what it did in a confusing way.