From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 05:35:20 +0300 Message-ID: <83362yisgn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13509"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, raman@google.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 01 04:36:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNoRz-0003RJ-Sw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 04:36:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56242 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNoRy-0000GX-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52562) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNoRM-0008Az-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46633) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNoRK-0000JS-De; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:35:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1342 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kNoRJ-00088p-RP; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:35:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:45:31 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256816 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:45:31 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru > > > that's an interesting perspective. Am surprized that you feel tty > > users would find C-z z significantly harder than just C-z as the key > > to suspend Emacs. > > I assume tty users have "C-z to suspend" hardwired in their fingers and > would be quite surprised if any application decides to use another > binding for it. Do they? Perhaps we should have a survey. FWIW, I use "C-x C-z" for that since about forever (I need "C-z" for something much more useful and frequent).