From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43830: keyboard layout handling incompatible with rest of the OS Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:51:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83362qa073.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7r78a5y.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87imbn2iwm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2kisawy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2681"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43830@debbugs.gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmail.com To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 10:52:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5BM-0000c4-OR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:52:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33102 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5BL-0000Ft-Nr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:52:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5B3-0000As-T5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5B3-0003oj-IR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5B3-0000Nz-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 08:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43830 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43830-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43830.16020606791435 (code B ref 43830); Wed, 07 Oct 2020 08:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43830) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2020 08:51:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5AM-0000N5-L5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:51:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45500) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5AH-0000Ml-Q3 for 43830@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41968) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5AB-0003kQ-Cl; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4873 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ5AA-0000Rs-Lk; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:51:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y2kisawy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:16:12 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190006 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:16:12 +0300 > Cc: 43830@debbugs.gnu.org > > > So, it is a good workaround that *mostly* works. But it doesn't solve the > > underlying issue. Which was successfully solved by other applications tens > > of years ago. > > We already discussed this 10 years ago, and the conclusion was that > it would require too fundamental changes in how Emacs processes keystrokes. Can you point me to that discussion? Thanks.