From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relevance of `baud-rate' in the 2020s? Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:43:28 +0300 Message-ID: <833625l9wv.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7974"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 08:44:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVqor-0001yH-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:44:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41118 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVqoq-0006p8-5N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 02:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVqnh-0006Kr-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 02:43:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVqng-0002he-R6; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 02:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3025 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kVqnf-0005gM-Ng; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 02:43:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:11:40 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258328 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:11:40 -0700 > > So there is this nifty variable called `baud-rate'. It can be used to > enable some special display hacks if you are on a connection slower than > 2400 baud. It enables you, I guess, to run Emacs 27.1 on that spanking > new 1987 modem that you have just been dying to get your hands on. > > Yet there has been a marked lack of interest in it. :-( > > I wasn't able to find any discussion about it on emacs-devel since 2005, > except for an honorable mention when Alan Mackenzie said in 2015 that > the parts in isearch.el that use it are "probably obsolete". > > More seriously, is `baud-rate' still relevant in the next decade? > Should we make it obsolete in Emacs 28.1? In my remote corner of the world, I sometimes have periods of time that Internet crawls at 3KB/sec. If I need to use Emacs on a remote machine during that time, this "obsolete" mode is very useful, because SSH sends more than just the characters I type. So I definitely don't want it to become obsolete, let alone removed. If "baud-rate" is what bothers you, we can augment the name or documentation to explain when this is useful and why. Thanks.