From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [DOC] About Lisp Data Types Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 17:52:11 +0300 Message-ID: <8335rtnrok.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7g9h67j.fsf@laposte.net> <877dh5l7rv.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y29ljs26.fsf@zoho.eu> <875ywpgw0v.fsf@laposte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 01 16:52:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mACpa-0005Vy-MP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 16:52:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACpZ-0004m1-8o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:52:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACpG-0004lq-UP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACpG-0004yl-NZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1760 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACpG-0003WJ-2Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:52:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875ywpgw0v.fsf@laposte.net> (message from Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor on Sun, 01 Aug 2021 15:00:16 +0200) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132281 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 15:00:16 +0200 > From: Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > In other languages, an expression is text; it has no other form. In > Lisp, an expression is primarily a Lisp object and only secondarily the > text that is the object’s read syntax. Often there is no need to > emphasize this distinction, but you must keep it in the back of your > mind, or you will occasionally be very confused. > > • An expression is a Lisp object which gives its meaning. > • An expression cannot be understood in its original form (text). > > It makes no sense at first. If you read the manual's text for what it is, it makes perfect sense. The two bullets are your own, they are not in the text.