From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is GNU not Unix-like system? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:00:23 +0200 Message-ID: <8335kdy9p4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <83tucuybjr.fsf@gnu.org> <83o832y7ck.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 20 14:03:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLlsc-0008gz-6p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:03:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLlsa-00085u-G6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:03:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLlpA-00084l-4F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=55458 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLlp9-0006Bq-Nz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:00:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=lue0vhgGkb2SY4qvPJyfcJI2rNBdf7orcBQ+Aya8llA=; b=Or4GCJIxlJit7G2eZxPW S4aRvh1SinqklciyBH74Fu5V3JtxtOlThHIbrMgpJAulPGMwVNfGpZZBsUMcuqxqA1uNHFCz5J6s7 p7lT7IGgj69rEJdBoZiskSdVEvym43ZXW9eooQg17+LaPeoBbDH84YlBsFk5inCXFS9McwV2jsBu+ Yz5ehcWT9uFfgAvZv20PXnkJ13zXyBFlK9Era149rlaDbdIvB/N7asRDTDCRbqlstQ5R3O9E5x+vq CpvtwAujzbyrcf74tXeOSc5oLqMQS6jZaxwpbgAqlKqHWZoZVSiQlYB/Xkb4v7fiS8WEQNyGb2tyR c0g2907tqwWvjw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4669 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLlp6-0001N3-65 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:00:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:21:50 +0300) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136055 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:21:50 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > * Eli Zaretskii [2022-02-19 22:39]: > > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 22:30:47 +0300 > > > From: Jean Louis > > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > > "GNU and Unix systems" is standard GNU terminology. We use it in > > > > umpteen places. > > > > > > I did not know that. Though what do you think would this expression be > > > more clear: > > > > > > "GNU and other Unix like systems" > > > > No. We really do maintain that GNU is different from Unix systems. > > Of course it is different. > > Though it was made with purpose to be Unix-compatible system, see: > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html > > Please tell me what makes GNU not to be Unix-like system. I didn't say GNU wasn't "Unix-like". I just said we routinely use "GNU and Unix systems", that's all. You can see that at work in the Emacs manuals. I cannot be held responsible for all the claptrap which followed my naïve remark; I was just trying to tell that GTK cannot be used on all platforms supported by Emacs.