From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57434: 28.1.91; Terminal Emacs Mac OS flickering. 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That > would be ESC P in the one proposal I mentioned. > > It would of course be better if we could do that automatically. Exactly. I don't think it's reasonable to expect users to figure out what and when to send if we cannot figure that out ourselves.