From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 22:27:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83359oz5jy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tu27jq7h.fsf@localhost> <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> <39a5810d-75bc-4ddb-8722-703f762ed4de@app.fastmail.com> <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18251"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: MEC@stowers.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michel@schi.nz, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org To: David Masterson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 09 21:28:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jyg-0004YH-W7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 21:28:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jyW-0006tP-SH; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:28:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jyU-0006pO-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jyU-0005bv-Lw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jyT-0002u8-W8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 20:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59882 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59882-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59882.167061765211157 (code B ref 59882); Fri, 09 Dec 2022 20:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59882) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2022 20:27:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38292 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jy0-0002tt-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:27:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56092) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jxy-0002tn-NC for 59882@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:27:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jxr-00056i-7a; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:27:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FNVLU/JksVkgaVXKVQMPVCqFsVmNIuSuTQsDToeRViQ=; b=CCSVnLl/pTuo FwiowaQjCX4zcgOrSWfkvsmRCkk7Ko58h7e1ViwZoARZ+CitQ2aCg9mEGUqCntS5FIJ6xDVv/o5NZ Jk42GznjAWuzyHi9Z05m+iwUL2Aun48ayQCs3SzgcFPAnA3FyAZKm8V5qpkMloELp28z6nvWS3REZ tfQltDaIPam+AgChYmm9/rDCDVhbwF95EP4C2Hm4bJ0n0z55CiqNWvbrm5DA1QG540mZ859379pfI ixZkHdTTwf7P0y9tDmY8Ev/zqBRDyFhSbuNwAfMfDEAXOYNtrA3RfNkckN7WdZ3kvT3S3yrfkYPhj Dzp6/573vyBKpk5VbYGlEw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3jxo-0007md-2e; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:27:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from David Masterson on Fri, 09 Dec 2022 11:51:29 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250448 gmane.emacs.orgmode:151187 Archived-At: > From: David Masterson > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "michel@schi.nz" , > "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , "59882@debbugs.gnu.org" > <59882@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 11:51:29 -0800 > > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Autoload-by-Prefix.html > > > > What you observed will NOT happen if you first run: > > > > (clrhash definition-prefixes) > > Ah! Thank you. In many ways, I still think of Emacs from what I learned > about it in the early 80s (yes, pre-Elisp). I didn't expect this and, > so, didn't investigate the possibility that it's planned (the Info > documentation has gotten huge). Apologies to Eli. No apologies needed, we all learn something new about Emacs every day. 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Thank you. In many ways, I still think of Emacs from what I learned > about it in the early 80s (yes, pre-Elisp). I didn't expect this and, > so, didn't investigate the possibility that it's planned (the Info > documentation has gotten huge). Apologies to Eli. No apologies needed, we all learn something new about Emacs every day.