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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: gregory@heytings.org, mardani29@yahoo.es,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 60568@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#60568: [FR] 30.0.50; Help buffers and function bodies for generated functions
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:14:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83358ms7gl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfgmjscq.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Sat, 07 Jan 2023 15:07:33 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
>  60568@debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 15:07:33 +0000
> 
> Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> writes:
> 
> >>
> >> But is it of interest for _users_? I'd rather see it in Elisp manual.
> >>
> >
> > It should be documented in the Elisp manual, indeed.  What I said was a 
> > bit unclear: I meant that a reminder should be displayed in the *Help* 
> > buffer.  With this, Elisp programmers who are not aware of that subtlety 
> > would become aware of it.
> 
> Then, may "13.4 Defining Functions" be a good place to link to this
> subtlety?
> 
> The documentation for `defalias' is not really very clear, even now,
> when I am aware about the issue herein:
> 
>      The proper place to use ‘defalias’ is where a specific function or
>      macro name is being defined—especially where that name appears
>      explicitly in the source file being loaded.  This is because
>      ‘defalias’ records which file defined the function, just like
>      ‘defun’ (*note Unloading::).
> 
>      By contrast, in programs that manipulate function definitions for
>      other purposes, it is better to use ‘fset’, which does not keep
>      such records.  *Note Function Cells::.

FWIW, I don't see anything unclear here.  Moreover, what does defalias
have to do with the issue of links to code of generated functions?





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-07 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-05  7:56 bug#60568: [FR] 30.0.50; Help buffers and function bodies for generated functions Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:20   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 17:04       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-05 17:03   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-05  9:40 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  9:52   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05 10:45 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05 10:52   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05 11:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 12:33     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05 14:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 14:27         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05 15:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 15:13             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05 16:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 20:44                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-06  6:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-06  9:11                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-06 17:27                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-06 22:52                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-07  0:36                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-07  6:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-07  9:42                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-07 13:38                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 14:00                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-07 14:04                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-07 15:07                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 15:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-07 15:19                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 15:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-07 17:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-07 13:14                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 13:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 17:00 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-06  8:39   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-06 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-07 11:32   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 15:44     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-12 10:40       ` Ihor Radchenko

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