From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62694: 30.0.50; eglot-tests fails with recent pylsp Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:59:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83355cot57.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfddibcn.fsf@gmx.de> <87o7o1tfvc.fsf@gmx.de> <87ile9t5uj.fsf@gmx.de> <87ttxssyef.fsf@gmx.de> <87o7o0rvax.fsf@gmx.de> <835ya8otvh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9840"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 62694@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 07 12:59:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjoK-0002La-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 12:59:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjoC-0002lg-BE; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjo6-0002l8-Ux for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjo6-0001Sf-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjo6-0000Zg-Bv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 10:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62694 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62694-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62694.16808651172169 (code B ref 62694); Fri, 07 Apr 2023 10:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62694) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2023 10:58:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjng-0000Yv-Kw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjne-0000Yj-Ij for 62694@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:58:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjnY-0001OE-Ta; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:58:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=FpkGkWFxdUr6JjLLJbIXOhP5w7Ce3+eCImZMgIO2HAA=; b=heAsxXBXVgEZPR9HCk+R KaTKKx7K52RSARg57RcQidynV6XRdCv7nujHR7f9IQrErAL/c1qhJK2qRaB5pKANS1ZSas4dpKvEo 9Kc6EgNtPCBwt/Diry6QO1m89xPBRcgYxkY5BNvNHTVLwkYmKl9XMedQuYXzd4L9FXttgeRQcC8Xw fbtK62V0w5tMDEnEjldwxfjQna5hM9M5DLf2LUpV/NDxPjC8922Z/tO1vpj98AaAL+uTfoWHWCsp+ nSlIrOWqVTpzq58VtjW8ByOjqbrWW0Nzu0V87fcYatD8vaK5IS/KDGwIDAFgEfVgcGwv4mx5vvE73 Uiz7k93RIk7ebg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkjnY-0008A6-AI; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:58:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= on Fri, 7 Apr 2023 11:51:16 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259386 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 11:51:16 +0100 > Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 62694@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 11:42 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > A better solution is to skip the test if the pylsp server is not up to > > the job. Would that be possible? > > It's probably possible, but I don't know how yet, and I don't think it's > worth doing this complexity _and_ incurring in this test slowdown (Eglot > tests are already pretty slow) just to solve a problem that doesn't really > exist. The problem does exist, as Micheal has explained in so many words. Please trust him, as I do, that he knows what he is talking about, and would have solved this himself if an easier solution were possible. I see no significant complexity in adding a version test. We do that in umpteen other places with many other programs. > I don't understand what the problem with adding a 'pip install' line > to the EMBA scripts is. Again, please trust Michael on that one. We will not make any progress if we start second-guessing every request and decision of our peers, especially after you already suggested the upgrade, and Michael already explained why he thought it wasn't the best alternative. Please.