New to org-capture (and org-remember)

New to org-capture (and org-remember)

[Stephen Eglen]

I'd like to try out org-capture.  

I've never used org-remember before so I have no templates to convert.
Do I make the new ones in pretty much the same way as the manual
describes for org-remember?

Or should I be patient, and wait for org-capture to stabilise?

Thanks, Stephen

Re: New to org-capture (and org-remember)

[Carsten Dominik]

org-capture is going to be the future, so go for it.

Most things work well, except for the file+function and file+regexp  
targets.

Yes, make them like the remember ones.  Just call org-capture, and
press 'C' to get to the customize buffer.

If you have the git distribution, you can do

make doc/org.pdf

to get the new manual where the remember section has
already been replaced with one about capture.

- Carsten

On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Stephen Eglen wrote:

> I'd like to try out org-capture.
>
> I've never used org-remember before so I have no templates to convert.
> Do I make the new ones in pretty much the same way as the manual
> describes for org-remember?
>
> Or should I be patient, and wait for org-capture to stabilise?
>
> Thanks, Stephen
>
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- Carsten

Re: New to org-capture (and org-remember)

[Memnon Anon]

Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> I'd like to try out org-capture.  
>
> I've never used org-remember before so I have no templates to convert.
> Do I make the new ones in pretty much the same way as the manual
> describes for org-remember?
>
> Or should I be patient, and wait for org-capture to stabilise?

Hi,

to quote the fine manual:

,----[ (info "(org)Capture templates") ]
| You can use templates to arrange for different types of capture items,
| and for different target locations.  The easiest way to set up such
| templates is through the customize interface.
| 
| `C-c c C'
|      Customize the variable `org-capture-templates'.
`----

Is your documentation uptodate?

You should find all the information in "9.1 Capture" and its
subnodes to get you started.

Argh, org-capture.el is not part of the current stable release.
So, if you want to try, you need the development version, either
with git or download org-latest (link is on orgmode.org).

If you still encounter any problems, please describe them so the
documentation can be improved :).

Re: New to org-capture (and org-remember)

[Stephen Eglen]

Memnon Anon <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > I'd like to try out org-capture.  
> >
> > I've never used org-remember before so I have no templates to convert.
> > Do I make the new ones in pretty much the same way as the manual
> > describes for org-remember?
> >
> > Or should I be patient, and wait for org-capture to stabilise?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> to quote the fine manual:
> 
> ,----[ (info "(org)Capture templates") ]
> | You can use templates to arrange for different types of capture items,
> | and for different target locations.  The easiest way to set up such
> | templates is through the customize interface.
> | 
> | `C-c c C'
> |      Customize the variable `org-capture-templates'.
> `----
> 
> Is your documentation uptodate?
> 
> You should find all the information in "9.1 Capture" and its
> subnodes to get you started.
> 
> Argh, org-capture.el is not part of the current stable release.
> So, if you want to try, you need the development version, either
> with git or download org-latest (link is on orgmode.org).
> 
> If you still encounter any problems, please describe them so the
> documentation can be improved :).

Thanks for this.  I have read the nice docs (and found some small typos
- will send a patch).  

One thing immediately struck me: sec 9.1.1. mentions setting: 
org-default-notes-file 
but I couldn't see that mentioned in the rest of the chapter.  Its
docstring would indicate its needed by remember.el, so perhaps there is
no need any more to set org-default-notes-file?

Stephen

Re: Re: New to org-capture (and org-remember)

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Stephen,

On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Stephen Eglen wrote:

> Memnon Anon <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>> I'd like to try out org-capture.
>>>
>>> I've never used org-remember before so I have no templates to  
>>> convert.
>>> Do I make the new ones in pretty much the same way as the manual
>>> describes for org-remember?
>>>
>>> Or should I be patient, and wait for org-capture to stabilise?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> to quote the fine manual:
>>
>> ,----[ (info "(org)Capture templates") ]
>> | You can use templates to arrange for different types of capture  
>> items,
>> | and for different target locations.  The easiest way to set up such
>> | templates is through the customize interface.
>> |
>> | `C-c c C'
>> |      Customize the variable `org-capture-templates'.
>> `----
>>
>> Is your documentation uptodate?
>>
>> You should find all the information in "9.1 Capture" and its
>> subnodes to get you started.
>>
>> Argh, org-capture.el is not part of the current stable release.
>> So, if you want to try, you need the development version, either
>> with git or download org-latest (link is on orgmode.org).
>>
>> If you still encounter any problems, please describe them so the
>> documentation can be improved :).
>
> Thanks for this.  I have read the nice docs (and found some small  
> typos
> - will send a patch).

Proofreading that section carefully would be much appreciated.
Also better wording etc.  I am known as the worst typist in the world,
and I know that my English is reasonably good but not nearly perfect.

>
> One thing immediately struck me: sec 9.1.1. mentions setting:
> org-default-notes-file
> but I couldn't see that mentioned in the rest of the chapter.  Its
> docstring would indicate its needed by remember.el, so perhaps there  
> is
> no need any more to set org-default-notes-file?

I have just updated this docstring, thanks for noticing this.

This variable is not necessary, but it is used if you are too
lazy to give a target file in the template definition.

- Carsten