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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Display of characters #xa0 and #xad in unibyte buffers
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:43:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831vlrsh6q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tl7fxa7lvqv.fsf@m17n.org>

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:10:32 +0900
> 
> In article <83ws3ntmgv.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > > >> $ emacs -Q
> > > >> M-x toggle-enable-multibyte-characters RET C-q 240 RET C-q 255 RET
> > > >> 
> > > >> The characters are displayed as "_-" (approximately).
> > > >> 
> > > >> Shouldn't they be displayed as "\240\255", considering that these are
> > > >> raw bytes with no specific meaning?
> > > 
> > > > There are no ``raw bytes'' in a unibyte buffer.  Every byte there is
> > > > interpreted as a character, and shown as such.  This is the main
> > > > feature of unibyte buffers; otherwise, who'd want them?
> 
> I think the main feature of unibyte buffers is to handle
> raw-bytes as is.

How do we even know that they are raw bytes, and how do we
distinguish, in a unibyte buffer, ü from \374, say?  Just because they
were inserted by C-q NNN or by some other mechanism?

> For those who want to see a raw-byte as a character of their locale
> (language environment), we have
> unibyte-display-via-language-environment.

I thought bytes in unibyte buffers are always interpreted as
characters of the locale, as Emacs 19 did.  Are you saying that they
are by default always interpreted as raw bytes, unless
unibyte-display-via-language-environment is set?





  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-28  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-24 15:06 Display of characters #xa0 and #xad in unibyte buffers Ulrich Mueller
2009-09-25  8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-25  9:00   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-09-25  9:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-28  1:10       ` Kenichi Handa
2009-09-28  6:43         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-09-28 11:24           ` Kenichi Handa
2009-09-28 14:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-28 22:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  1:05               ` Kenichi Handa
2009-09-29  1:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  2:37                   ` Kenichi Handa
2009-09-29  3:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  7:52                       ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found]                         ` <831vljpm0v.fsf@gnu.org>
2009-10-05  0:49                           ` Kenichi Handa
2009-09-25  9:38   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-25 14:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-26  8:26     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-09-25  9:44 ` Andreas Schwab

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