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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:55:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831vkcav86.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AF36607.50508@gnu.org>

> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:55:51 +0800
> From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> The only solution seems to be to render the entire buffer offscreen
> in background, adjusting the scrollbar as we get more detailed
> information about the real contents of the buffer.  This is what
> word processors, web browsers and other complex applications do -
> you see the first page quite quickly, then you see the scroll bar
> growing as it renders the buffer in background.

Except that in Emacs, such rendering would be prohibitively expensive,
even for moderate size files, because we have display features that
those other word processors don't even dream of when displaying plain
text files, and those features are designed and implemented in a way
that is completely incompatible with rendering everything at once.

Doing the above will probably mean a complete redesign and rewrite of
the display engine.  And for what? for satisfying a few purists that
cannot live with marginally weird behavior of the scroll bar?




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-06  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-02 10:41 Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) grischka
2009-11-02 11:21 ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-03  0:48   ` grischka
2009-11-03  9:27     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-04  0:09     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-04  9:51       ` grischka
2009-11-04 11:18         ` joakim
2009-11-04 19:29           ` Jan Djärv
2009-11-04 20:57             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05  1:18               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-09 23:14                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-05  9:23               ` Jan D.
2009-11-05 13:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05 15:16               ` grischka
2009-11-05 15:32                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-05 15:35                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-05 16:07                 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-05 23:55                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-06  0:31                     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06  3:10                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-06  4:37                       ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06  8:42                     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-06  8:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-11-02 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03  0:32   ` grischka
2009-11-03  1:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03  5:37       ` grischka
2009-11-03 13:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 21:10           ` grischka
2009-11-03 23:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 10:02   ` joakim
2009-11-05  9:21     ` Jan D.
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-07 11:50 grischka
2009-11-07 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-07 17:47   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-03 16:36 grischka
2009-11-03 17:13 ` David Kastrup
2009-10-30 11:18 Customizing the mode line Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-31  6:09   ` Manoj Srivastava
2009-10-31 20:38     ` Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) Stefan Monnier
2009-11-01  3:11       ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-02  6:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-02  7:41           ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-02 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier

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