From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bidi,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:12:44 +0200 Message-ID: <831vh5iog3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tyu3iu6b.fsf@gnu.org> <4B645FF4.30205@gmx.at> <83ockbil1v.fsf@gnu.org> <4B646AD3.1010102@gmx.at> <83mxzviio5.fsf@gnu.org> <4B647AE5.5090001@gmx.at> <83ljffif09.fsf@gnu.org> <4B648C6E.8080905@gmx.at> <83eil7i84h.fsf@gnu.org> <4B654F24.5020603@gmx.at> <83aavui23z.fsf@gnu.org> <4B65E199.6070100@gmx.at> <878wbeaqlq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264997640 29672 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 04:14:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 04:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 05:13:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nbnff-0002TL-VL for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:13:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nbnff-0006O3-6g for gnu-emacs-bidi@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:13:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NbnfD-00069t-E0 for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40669 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NbnfC-00069V-Jt for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NbnfB-0000Bm-Dr for emacs-bidi@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:41596) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NbnfB-0000BT-2x; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:13:25 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KX500K00A97UV00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:12:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.67.249]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KX500IBAAD3CKB0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:12:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <878wbeaqlq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-bidi@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of Emacs support for multi-directional text." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-bidi-bounces+gnu-emacs-bidi=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bidi:487 gmane.emacs.devel:120766 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:53:21 +0900 > > martin rudalics writes: > > Technically columns are numbered by counting characters following the > > last newline in the buffer text. > > Eh? Clearly they're not, because things like tabs expand into multiple > columns... Columns are a display concept, not a buffer concept. I guess Martin meant to say that column numbering is defined even for parts of a buffer that are not displayed, or even for buffers that are not displayed in any window.