From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:15:50 +0200 Message-ID: <831v27q6cp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> <4D7FDFB0.6020203@cs.ucla.edu> <4D7FEF16.7040107@cs.ucla.edu> <8362rjr9po.fsf@gnu.org> <4hk4fzsnv8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <68wrjzt274.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300299407 4982 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2011 18:16:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 16 19:16:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzvGv-0001pT-Ti for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:16:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzvGt-0004uo-RL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:16:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50972 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzvGi-0004jb-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PzvGN-0002V4-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:61056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PzvGN-0002Um-34; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LI500G00XDLSO00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:15:50 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.107.218]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LI500GWZXEDQN30@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:15:50 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <68wrjzt274.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137302 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:17:19 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > What would you or other maintainers say if I suggested a change that > > would require them to log in to a remote system each time they wanted > > to build the latest trunk, generate some file there, then copy it to > > their local machine? How can a member of a team even suggest > > something like that to another member? > > If I try to put myself in the position of someone maintaining an MS port > of GNU software, I honestly don't think I'd mind needing to access a GNU > host once in a while. I do access a GNU host from time to time. It's being forced to do that as a necessary prerequisite to a build that's annoying and from time to time, depending on the QoS of my ISP, even more than that. > That's why I suggested it, I was trying to help. Maybe it's me, but it didn't sound like that. Or maybe I should have counted to ten. Sorry. > > I rather hope this will not the way, because it _is_ unreasonable, > > both in practical terms and in its underlying attitude, which frankly > > is revolting. > > Am I allowed to get annoyed at this point? Yes. Sorry. > I also volunteer to set up a cron job that does this. That would be great, thanks.