From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: temacs Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:20:36 +0300 Message-ID: <831uknmqsb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> <83086e1d-d66a-4e0c-95a7-92d10a6de7e7@f8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <87r4t3krun.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <811ul1ds60.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83zk7e2x5f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341681669 8593 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2012 17:21:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 19:21:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYgn-0005NH-Hs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:21:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53210 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYgm-0004mN-IM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:21:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYgh-0004m5-K8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:20:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYgf-0006pM-RH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:34504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYgf-0006o6-J2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M6S00B00W4PCL00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:20:51 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M6S00BZBW6P1A70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:20:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85718 Archived-At: > From: "John Wiegley" > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 11:51:24 -0500 > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> temacs basically has only the C-implemented Lisp functions available. > > > This is false. When you run temacs, it begins by loading all of loadup.el, > > which basically is everything the dumped Emacs has. > > Really? I thought that only happened during dumping because the Makefile > explicit does "./temacs -batch -l loadup dump". If it always loads loadup, > then why the -l loadup? I think because temacs only does that automatically when invoked interactively, not in -batch mode. But you should be able to see that clearly from the code.