From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r101338: * lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el (syntax-ppss): More sanity check to catch Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:41:15 +0200 Message-ID: <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r47bi1e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <52F96284.50507@yandex.ru> <52FAE12B.6060101@yandex.ru> <52FC3BEE.60604@yandex.ru> <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392388895 15547 80.91.229.3 (14 Feb 2014 14:41:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 14 15:41:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WEJxT-0006t7-TC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:41:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52115 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WEJxT-0005SG-8x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:41:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WEJxL-0005Qd-Bm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:41:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WEJxG-0007bm-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:41:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:43323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WEJxA-0007ZD-8z; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0Z00B00PSFBH00@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:40:16 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0Z006HIQ347I60@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:40:16 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169611 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:34:45 +0200 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > My point is that we should come up with a list of the requirements, > > and then design and implement the infrastructure which will support > > them, instead of implementing multi-mode buffers by piggybacking > > existing infrastructure, which was never designed to support such > > features. > > The need to "come up, design and implement" these things has been there > for many years now. Unless things start moving in that direction > step-by-step, I'm not confident anything "proper" will happen at all. Nothing will start moving unless Someone(TM) will move things. I hope volunteers will eventually come and do that, or else Emacs will continue to be what it is today. My chiming into this thread was in the hope that what I say will inspire someone.