From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
Cc: 15991@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15991: 24.3.50; Wishlist: Make test suite user-friendlier
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:33:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <831tua8ww8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53AD40B3.3060503@easy-emacs.de>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:00:19 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
> CC: 15991@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. When a test fails,
> > don't you want to debug Emacs to understand why and find a solution?
> >
> > So yes, testing and debugging are different things, but when a test
> > fails, one frequently needs to debug Emacs.
> >
> >
>
> That depends. IIUC it's about making it more user friendly.
> Perspective of users is different from core developers.
>
> So if, say 10 from 100 tests fail, it doesn't mean to start a debug.
> Maybe just taking notice and look, if it matters for current task.
If someone just wants to take a look, they can do just that. No one
is forcing them to say "make foo.log DEBUG=1" and run the foo test
under a debugger. This is an optional feature, as should be clear
from reading the original bug report and this discussion.
> We had that matter already WRT steep learning curve.
> Keeping things apart if possible is important.
Not sure how is this related to the issue at hand. Maybe you should
read the whole discussion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-27 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-28 20:04 bug#15991: 24.3.50; Wishlist: Make test suite user-friendlier Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-28 20:13 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-28 22:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 6:05 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-26 15:20 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-26 15:42 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 15:49 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27 7:23 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-27 8:57 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27 15:57 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27 18:12 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27 18:24 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-28 1:13 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-28 17:12 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-29 13:30 ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-26 16:44 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-26 17:00 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27 5:45 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-06-27 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-27 10:00 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-06-27 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-06-28 17:19 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-28 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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