From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:15:49 +0200 Message-ID: <831toe4aai.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <87ppbzplcw.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83iohr48kr.fsf@gnu.org> <87egseqsa6.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417778168 1025 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 11:16:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 12:15:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwqre-000355-Pn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 12:15:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwqre-0002UJ-BH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwqrM-0002Tf-4f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwqrH-0006si-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:42217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwqrG-0006sZ-MR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:15:34 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NG300N00WBFTP00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:11:17 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NG300FA3WESUI70@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:11:17 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87egseqsa6.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178901 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora , > , > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:56:17 +0000 >=20 > > I also think that we have mentoring here, so I don't understand w= hat > > exactly is this gripe about. People ask questions, both here and= on > > bug-gnu-emacs, and get helpful answers and guidance even when the > > questions are only tangentially related to Emacs (or even not at > > all). What exactly is missing? >=20 > I've gone back and read what I wrote. I can't see where it is a gri= pe. I apologize for using the word "gripe". Let me rephrase: what is missing in the current practices on emacs-devel to make them eligible to be called "mentoring", in your opinion? > It seems to me to be a positive suggestion. I didn't perceive it as negative. I just didn't understand what was being suggested in practical terms. Please elaborate.