From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20926: 25.0.50; Quotation marks always display as hard quotes Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:02:26 +0300 Message-ID: <831tgu5zi5.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435590214 6834 80.91.229.3 (29 Jun 2015 15:03:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20926@debbugs.gnu.org To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 29 17:03:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaa-0004qZ-EN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:03:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42637 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaU-0003Qf-Fj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaQ-0003QV-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaN-0005ah-Cq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaN-0005ad-AD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaN-0007mi-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:03:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:03:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20926.143559017629905 (code B ref 20926); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:03:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2015 15:02:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaF-0007mG-PA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:02:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:47155) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9aaC-0007m1-P0 for 20926@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQP00G00NZ57M00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 20926@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:53:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQP00E3VO1OTC20@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:53:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104487 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:14:42 +0100 > From: Artur Malabarba > > Just to add some more information. > On the help buffer describing the character, all of the following > lines display a hard ascii quote > > > character: ‘ (displayed as ‘) (codepoint 8216, #o20030, #x2018) > > display: by display table entry [?'] (see below) > > ': xft:-unknown-Ubuntu Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x0A) > > On the other hand, the decomposition line below actually displays a > proper round left quotation mark (between two plain quotes, of > course). Go to that left quotation mark on the decomposition line, and type "C-u C-x =". That should give you a hint about what's going on there. > So I know that emacs can display them. Yes, but does Emacs know that? The display table is used when Emacs decides at startup that these characters cannot be displayed. The code which makes that decision is in 'set-locale-environment' (see mule-cmds.el, and search for "char-displayable-p"), which is run at startup. Can you see what's going on there? Also, do you call 'set-locale-environment' in your non-Q session?