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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing bugs from the blockers
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 11:36:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831t569wwu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8afe70b-d6bf-addd-0009-95e4ab503411@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 13 May 2016 00:35:37 +0300)

> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 00:35:37 +0300
> 
> 20420 is not very important, and likely wontfix.
> 22107 - same.
> 22527 is not very important.
> 19479 is a crapfest, and is unlikely to be fixed soon (we haven't even 
> fixed the basic signature verification functionality yet, see the other 
> bugs, and that's shameful).

Agreed.  Additional triage:

22434 -- caused by fixing another bug, affects a minor feature, and
      	 won't be fixed unless someone motivated works on it
23144 -- we don't know how to fix it; maybe talking to GTK maintainers
      	 could help
22884 -- IMO we did everything possible, so the bug could be closed
22338 -- shows up only in rare situations, and reasons are not well
      	 understood; suggest to close
17976 -- actually, a feature request, so should not be blocking
20352 -- I thought this was recently resolved, no?
21489 -- is most probably the result of refactoring of keystroke
      	 echoing, and probably won't be fixed
17693 -- not reproducible on my machine, and no one responded to my
      	 request for reproduction
23360 -- does anyone have a better idea than introducing a variable to
      	 control the affected code (which is mostly unneeded, but
      	 sometimes is)?
22440 -- someone who knows about package.el should look at this
21650 -- MH-E bug, handled there
23513 -- includes a patch; someone who knows about package.el should
      	 look at this
22795 -- not reproducible, should probably be closed, as I've not
      	 heard from the OP for a long time
22465 -- includes a patch that should be applied, and the bug closed
20247 -- appears in very rare situations, so shouldn't block the
      	 release
21182 -- the blamed commit seems unrelated, so should probably be
      	 tagged not reproducible
19548 -- is worded too generally, and is therefore hard to work on;
      	 perhaps Glenn could make post specific complaints, which then
      	 could be handled one by one
23050 -- is a manifestation of an old bug 18125, and also includes 2
      	 ideas for solution; also, is specific to a certain workflow,
      	 so there's a workaround
21871 -- discussion ends with an unanswered question to Stefan
22527 -- sounds like it should be closed?
21422 -- my opinion on that is in the discussion; 'nuff said
19717 -- a patch was suggested not long ago; can someone review it?
21874 -- sounds like it should be closed?
22295 -- undo-related, I hope Phillip will be able to look into it
22147 -- should be closed, I think (why is it on the blocking list?)

My conclusion from reviewing these bugs is: I don't really understand
how come some of the bugs were designated as "blocking".

A more general conclusion (from both these and other bug reports) is
that we tend to break valid use cases when we refactor some core parts
of Emacs, and the people who worked on refactoring are not always
willing to work on cleaning up the breakage it caused.  For example,
the above list includes a few bugs for which the offending commit was
identified, but the guilty parties don't seem to be eager to work on
that.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-13  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160509235343.17047.73943@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20160509235343.759D0220128@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-05-10  1:34   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 d0d9f55: Allow newlines inside cl function arglists Stefan Monnier
2016-05-10 10:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-10 10:21       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-10 10:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-10 11:27           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-10 11:33             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-10 11:57               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-10 12:01                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-10 12:36                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-10 12:49                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-10 21:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-10 21:26                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-11  0:39                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-11 22:40                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-11  1:47   ` John Wiegley
2016-05-12 19:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-12 21:23       ` John Wiegley
2016-05-13  8:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-13 16:26           ` John Wiegley
2016-05-12 21:35     ` Removing bugs from the blockers Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-13  8:36       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-05-13 10:30         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-13 14:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-13 16:28             ` John Wiegley
2016-05-13 20:20             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-16 17:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-13 12:48         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-13 16:33         ` John Wiegley
2016-06-09 13:04         ` Nix
2016-06-09 21:09           ` bug#21182 (was Removing bugs from the blockers) Mike Kupfer
2016-06-10 11:33             ` Nix
2016-05-13 11:30       ` Removing bugs from the blockers Kaushal Modi
2016-05-13 11:38         ` Dmitry Gutov

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