From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 15:04:04 +0300 Message-ID: <831szrhwsr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87shsm7hi6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eucwi2.fsf@gnu.org> <878tudgwlq.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360pgoyo4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jn3ws9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eqoi08.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jlacsh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <867f9t4n4t.fsf@realize.ch> <874m4x8sq5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8637kh4j1u.fsf@realize.ch> <87wpht4b1i.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86y4292m2u.fsf@realize.ch> <8737kd8vfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <867f9n2r6s.fsf@realize.ch> <87a8egw2az.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360p3i2gt.fsf@gnu.org> <86a8efqf9p.fsf@realize.ch> <8337k7hysd.fsf@gnu.org> <8660p3qd99.fsf@realize.ch> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475928359 22522 195.159.176.226 (8 Oct 2016 12:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 12:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alain Schneble Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 14:05:54 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqNj-0002rY-9R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 14:05:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40865 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqNh-0005tr-Uy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:05:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqNA-0005tQ-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqN8-0005kk-HU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:04:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqMA-0005Tp-9n; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:03:58 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2612 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bsqM8-0006ux-4g; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:03:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <8660p3qd99.fsf@realize.ch> (message from Alain Schneble on Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:41:22 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208090 Archived-At: > From: Alain Schneble > CC: , , > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:41:22 +0200 > > >> AFAIU, Phillip is concerned about the development process of ELPA core > >> packages. While developing such a package, one wants to edit the > >> git-controlled files directly and probably also load these files instead > >> of the (git-uncontrolled) ones in the proper Emacs core location, where > >> they would reside at least in a tarball release. > > > > The Right Way of doing this is exactly as we do with the likes of > > charscript.el: edit the files that are their sources, in this case the > > file in the ELPA repo, then commit the changes there, and finally > > re-download them into the Emacs tree. We are doing that all the time > > with generated files. > > Do you mean committing the files with or without pushing to the remote > git repo? I guess you mean including a push? Eventually, a push will be needed to get the change to everyone else, of course. > That would work of course, but might be a bit cumbersome. I guess > somentimes one wants to try it out prior to pushing to the remote. I don't see anything that would preclude that in this case. Try out locally first, then commit and push later. As usual. > Or if you meant without pushing at all, then none of the above would be > an issue, I think. But the logic of getting ELPA core packages into the > Emacs directory tree would be a bit different, as it would have to get > the files from the local git clone. I was hoping the modified package.el will help us get the files from the repository, either local or remote, directly into the Emacs source tree.