From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 17:31:09 +0200 Message-ID: <831syidoea.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874m3krnb6.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83a8dbiaps.fsf@gnu.org> <83pom7gjhl.fsf@gnu.org> <0a8d76e4-4d1b-a26d-2b76-a2d9384d9f72@yandex.ru> <83mvhbgitf.fsf@gnu.org> <25bb22e8-1388-275a-d0da-7e698acdf6da@yandex.ru> <83inrygggr.fsf@gnu.org> <83y40sfyij.fsf@gnu.org> <76505436-e66c-0ed3-6d7a-ce654f38ef30@yandex.ru> <83bmxnfhbi.fsf@gnu.org> <73600483-1df5-597c-6066-232189bbdd4a@yandex.ru> <834m3ffeb9.fsf@gnu.org> <83twbfdvav.fsf@gnu.org> <73be4b9d-2df8-cc83-b873-398cb7dd043b@yandex.ru> <83pom3ds3e.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmxme12w.fsf@gnu.org> <834m3edqyr.fsf@gnu.org> <6dbea00c-3bde-6ec3-b109-7aa205bedb5f@yandex.ru> <8337iydq8z.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478878406 13808 195.159.176.226 (11 Nov 2016 15:33:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 15:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, 21391@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 16:33:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DpC-0001R4-6p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:33:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53619 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DpF-0001pg-73 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:33:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39105) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DoD-0001Ee-3o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:32:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5Do9-00033o-WB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:32:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5Do9-00033j-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:32:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5Do9-0007Vq-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:32:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 15:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21391 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21391-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21391.147887828328825 (code B ref 21391); Fri, 11 Nov 2016 15:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21391) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2016 15:31:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54074 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DnX-0007Up-EH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:31:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47861) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DnV-0007UU-S7 for 21391@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:31:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DnG-0002lc-Fd for 21391@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45242) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DnG-0002lV-Ct; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:31:06 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2610 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c5DnF-0006rw-LG; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:31:06 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:57:20 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125623 Archived-At: > Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, 21391@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:57:20 +0200 > > On 11.11.2016 16:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Improve it by describing whatever it is that is evident from the code > > that is not evident from the doc string. > > So we will enumerate how every built-in "thing" behaves? No, we won't, not unless you and Tino say that's what you think should be there. > > I don't understand why. It's not like we don't have other functions > > that can return different kinds of objects. > > Because there is no rhyme or reason in the current behavior, no matter > how you want to look at it. The reason is that it existed in this form for the last 19 years.