From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 10:28:25 +0200 Message-ID: <831sxpmn6e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83shq6mlt3.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480753713 23500 195.159.176.226 (3 Dec 2016 08:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 09:28:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5gI-0004wr-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5gM-0007Ng-EH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 03:28:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58113) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5gF-0007NN-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 03:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5gC-0004Tl-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 03:28:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5gC-0004Tf-Ih; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 03:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3229 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cD5g5-0004ej-3p; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 03:28:13 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:24:55 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209974 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:24:55 -0500 > > > No. I mean that bytecomp.el would generate a file in a format which > > pdumper can use (which has various consequences, such as the fact that > > .elc files aren't portable any more). > > That seems like a big disadvantage to me. This could be sufficient > reason just by itself to stick with the current format for elc files. > People expect to install one elc file and have it work in multple > Emacs versions. That's true, but note that Guile produces non-portable byte-compiled files since long ago. The Guile developers did that on purpose and they think it's TRT. I was at least initially surprised when I learned about that.