From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32463: 27.0.50; (logior -1) => 4611686018427387903 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:03:30 +0300 Message-ID: <831sauflfh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86mutll4w2.fsf@gmail.com> <3a6f17af-018e-cb0b-5182-cf736b3a814c@cs.ucla.edu> <83a7pjfql6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534690930 27833 195.159.176.226 (19 Aug 2018 15:02:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 32463@debbugs.gnu.org To: Pip Cet Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 19 17:02:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1frPDP-00074p-Ui for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:02:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPFW-0005xK-Fr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:04:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPFP-0005xF-3E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPFK-0004gu-Ml for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPFK-0004gq-Jl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1frPFK-00017n-Cs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32463 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 32463-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32463.15346910274302 (code B ref 32463); Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2018 15:03:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1frPF5-00017K-8s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56797) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1frPF3-000174-CS for 32463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPEu-0004Xy-FE for 32463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frPEu-0004Xq-2r; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3961 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1frPEt-0000dh-Mm; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:03:36 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Pip Cet on Sat, 18 Aug 2018 19:58:40 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149595 Archived-At: > From: Pip Cet > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 19:58:40 +0000 > Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 32463@debbugs.gnu.org > > > It is IMO absurd for us to deprecate a valid and useful operation just > > because we added bignums. If we cannot agree on its semantics for > > bignums (which would surprise me), then it is better to make it not > > work for bignums at all than deprecate it for fixnums. > > The recent code changes made `lsh' behave the same as `ash' for > fixnums, if I understand correctly. Are you suggesting we revert to > the previous behavior, and try to come up with an interpretation for > bignums that somehow extends the previous behavior? I indeed missed the change in the behavior of lsh, as it wasn't accompanied by any documentation changes. However, today's commits by Paul already reverted lsh to its previous behavior, I believe.