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Subject: Re: emacs-28 47cbd10: * lisp/bindings.el (mode-line-position):
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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 10:28:01 +0200
> Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> 
> In the doc string for mode-line-format we have:
> 
>   %p -- print percent of buffer above top of window, or Top, Bot or All.
>   %P -- print percent of buffer above bottom of window, perhaps plus Top,
>         or print Bottom or All.
> 
> I could not find any other documentation of this feature.  Did I miss something?
> 
> I guess "Percent of buffer above top of window, or Top, Bot or All" is
> pretty hopeless as far as a user-facing description goes.  In
> particular, it doesn't say what any of it means.
> 
> Based on the documentation I could find, I can only suggest "Buffer
> Percentage Position" or, if you prefer, "Buffer Percentage POS", the
> latter of which exactly matches the description of this in the info
> node "(emacs) Optional Mode Line".  But I'm not sure that this is
> better than "Buffer Position".

How about "Buffer text percentage"?