From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51638: 26.1; Writing Romanian Characters Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2021 12:48:59 +0200 Message-ID: <831r3s9r6s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <82ab2ed1-86c3-e8e8-3f1f-7a9a1505729e@libero.it> <83zgqh9pjo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23059"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 51638@debbugs.gnu.org To: crstml@libero.it Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 07 11:50:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfkZ-0005m7-7G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 11:50:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39950 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfkX-0001Re-Lv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:50:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfkQ-0001Pu-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfkQ-0005Jr-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfkP-0003AA-PK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2021 10:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51638 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 51638-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51638.163628215912103 (code B ref 51638); Sun, 07 Nov 2021 10:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51638) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2021 10:49:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfjj-000399-DC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:49:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfjh-00038x-DF for 51638@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:49:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfjb-0005Eu-Sr; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:49:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=VNyZYE4rUvk7y91XEEwP9RCOXt3YtGx6sCPLIYf41qs=; b=YpjubBFZ4swezK8rRoQI S+F3/yx3RYJKh6uL4L8ruPe2YWdmkwFB6TDINXO2LeU4O6tXl+xu8oMxhX2ovAl79PUkGX4VFybn5 NnTLhWUjsMtIKx1XJS3hFONV+eJlES49IgJLBkgDbp6kTfGNm+7w0SMvOLvd4yWQKBN/Ky7FEcicW zrbDCUdCJ40VroOvqkN2Bu2qBejdrH4qdNLodU2qWXCv53rYy2scgrPqTGlVN/+rNNWVWAfFM/oUu M1o3WzqP1Wx1pnJtJWXIAsZiarLHUu00xamjmYpoHyArdkTDAnYWIIV4+sYGHEWSoDp2WZziPpgHx cwP+iwk/YWaWRQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2274 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjfjb-0005N2-Ef; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:49:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: (crstml@libero.it) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:219223 Archived-At: > Cc: 51638@debbugs.gnu.org > From: crstml@libero.it > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 02:03:12 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Please try the patch below. After applying the patch, typing "s ," > > will show two variants in the echo-area, and you can choose between > > them with C-f/C-b and the arrow keys. > > > > Is that a satisfactory solution? > > The solution is satisfactory for personal use. Thank you very much. > But there the following issues: > > 1) The patch is not complete for Romanian. A solution for Romanian >     should also handle the T and t letters. I send you attached a patch >     based on yours that handles also these letters Thanks, I installed that. > 2) For example if I try to type the Romanian word "Șes" then when I >     try  to write the "S WITH COMMA", after I type "S" ","  and finally >     a "C-f" to select my letter then best for a user would to type the >     next letter  that follows in his/her word ("e" in this case). But it >     doesn't work. If the user types "e" then the first choice is inserted >     in the buffer. The user must select the second letter with an ENTER. That's how Emacs input methods work when there's more than one translation of what you typed. > 3) For general use a better solution should exist because it is not >     very user  friendly to type so many characters to select your letter. >     Probably a true  Romanian language environment based on >     ISO-8859-16 should be provided.  The actual choice of ISO-8859-2 >     for the Romanian environment probably is not the best. > >    For example I will modify your patch to insert my ISO-8859-16 >    characters instead of those in ISO-LATIN-2. Because if I write Romanian >    I never have to interact with the s an t variants in ISO-LATIN-2. Patches to add such an language-environment will be welcome. Thanks.