From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58505: 29.0.50; Time out waiting for reply from selection owner Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 09:21:05 +0200 Message-ID: <831qq7miam.fsf@gnu.org> References: <186a7570-a0f7-c219-10c3-a46ab765e17d@gmail.com> <83leogm465.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2967"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 58505@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daan Ro Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 08:22:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Jr-0000df-3O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 08:22:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Jc-0006Lg-6o; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Ja-0006LS-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Ja-0002yy-KK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Ja-0000wO-4D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58505-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58505.16683240653549 (code B ref 58505); Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58505) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2022 07:21:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Ie-0000vA-LZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:21:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7Id-0000uM-C7 for 58505@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7IX-0002lj-SE; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:20:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=171oSZiVrXtq1LReE0jG5xgPhgKnQRwSWdFkZgGTIeQ=; b=C+/O/hk8GFu+ K7XxxzMJsbTsKYLShZQ1dKmCbavPWsTXFocpxtWeQ2M+T+0s4nDUiQuKnHdZTV1eK+7ibLlqvgoic 8NVS8Z1bsq8oMy8Q47mAYZhtm4TQNQHiZa19ZjmghlLQRshHfFLwD/iqZUEWW+Bw+iRpAbO20ojX2 75V7DqONUOV/i2GcD8Z0NnaGkARS30CCezc2z7qjzaulS5kXmSw0Wi+IWL5qEyZ2/mFs0hzEl7rWw nwJf47K8G8HGaERROu24nWRB7ANPFgcL24IvwNVSw4l0S1u6fiKTfGZdu4ofn41hIiNrvbBea7Ce4 zn0ZVYgKQvRGLILeWIYErQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ou7IX-0001JJ-6A; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 02:20:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Daan Ro on Sun, 13 Nov 2022 12:01:14 +0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247749 Archived-At: > From: Daan Ro > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 12:11:46 +0700 > > Then how about we do that by default, since batch sessions are untouchable in > the user-space. That makes little sense to me. We shouldn't disable features in the batch sessions without good reasons. This works for almost everyone, so changing the behavior for the benefit of a few that have some local configuration issue is not TRT. You can always disable this in your programs that you run in batch mode. > If a non-interactive instance really needs to access the clipboard (which > normally doesn't), it can easily set `interprogram-paste-function`. Disabling > prevents those sessions from influencing the primary interactive one (doesn't > solve the problem for multiple interactive instances, though). > > I am experimenting with this patch. Sorry, this is a non-starter from my POV. We will not change the long-time default behavior because someone has local problems on their system.