From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59609: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Better advertise (Non-)GNU ELPA in emacs manual Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 14:56:34 +0300 Message-ID: <831qf8yj2l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pmd9ssp7.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25865"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59609@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 08 13:57:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6x-0006SQ-Em for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 13:57:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6i-00010w-3h; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6e-00010b-SO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6e-0006HQ-KV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6g-0008OJ-Ks for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59609 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 59609-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59609.169417422032247 (code B ref 59609); Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59609) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 11:57:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6e-0008O3-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6b-0008No-Mc for 59609@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qea6U-0006DK-0d; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:56:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RzYz0JN1rn1BPJDknVi9NmgRlhFLlOXGa7cPlgV0n9A=; b=rwKmejj5XWI2 ItTr12ZkwTJVVRc98DYJ50IX/iJqex+99LMLGVX1MBS0wfyyMLQnR9NFTF0TC34o17c8KgD1f3MrS dS+K9woawRpBrbghml8/Mx1M0GDeTLygpOTNGSOrkPh7yVh2PpJEcyyyPKr/ALZ18afMQPsOyN4TP wz/4i6WsQFnagCkUPg3PUYtwDdh/m9PLpFINY/54DJpGJlPrfhF8ypIRrZ+Z+Woq0UxOwWFiz/T2G UHnMdwnIZjlq0Ch6+kfTv7N7+lvcuzcmQ6q1QyP8wMDbbLc0lGUE5Y4Pa7kRKqoksI6asanlcGbUO ccS5SNvyuh/Wqbubtunc+g==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:25:54 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:269761 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:25:54 -0700 > Cc: 59609@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > This sounds OK, but begs the question: what's short description of NonGNU > > ELPA? Since we describe GNU ELPA, let's also describe the other one. The > > purpose should IMO be to explain to the reader, or at least hint why we > > maintain two separate archives. > > What do you think of the below? It's a good starting point, but the copyright assignment issue is not the only issue (not even the main one, from my POV). The main issue with NonGNU ELPA, IMO, is that packages there don't necessarily adhere to the Emacs coding conventions, are not supervised by the Emacs maintainers, and do not have to coordinate their development decisions with the Emacs team. So their integration into Emacs could be less seamless than that of packages from GNU ELPA.