From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: About column numbers Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <830ba1d5-5844-455c-9c8e-02671771dce4@default> References: <56FB02BB.3090501@alice.it> <83wpokuh3a.fsf@gnu.org> <56FC0CDB.9090707@alice.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459360074 17875 80.91.229.3 (30 Mar 2016 17:47:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Angelo Graziosi , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 19:47:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alKDV-0001Us-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:47:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56072 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alKDU-0006LC-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alKCM-0005OX-PU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alKCL-0006Kx-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:46:30 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:48494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alKCG-0006Iw-UJ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u2UHkKkG007777 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:46:20 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2UHkKkn003084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:46:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2UHkHJh005967; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:46:19 GMT In-Reply-To: <56FC0CDB.9090707@alice.it> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202468 Archived-At: > > Why is it a problem for column number to start at zero? Emacs always > > worked like that. >=20 > Yes, I know.. this is not a fundamental, but why that "unnatural" > convention? I don't know other editor/IDE which uses columns from zero.. We should start with column 42. ;-) > >> If not, I would suggest to change this in Emacs.. or to add some > >> settings to change this.. > > > > Then you'd need to change every interface that accepts or returns > > column numbers, like move-to-column, posn-at-point, etc. Is it really > > worth it? > > >=20 > what a pity! It would be an opportunity to modernize a bit Emacs... Modernize schmodernize. ;-) Every new idea is not necessarily a great idea. And every recently expressed idea is not necessarily new.