From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: OK, so I've thrown Ido out and turned on Icicles. What now? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 07:08:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82212551-d603-4f06-8438-ab994e2e238e@default> References: <87r3x2rpbh.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <8761ee2d5l.fsf@vsl28t2g.ww011> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416236958 28144 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 15:09:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:09:18 +0000 (UTC) To: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 16:09:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNvU-0008BH-JU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:09:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNvU-00009d-4X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNvC-0008NA-JE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:09:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNv5-0005TG-DH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:26947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNv5-0005TC-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sAHF8hR0012312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:08:44 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAHF8ht1021486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:08:43 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAHF8gdt021465; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:08:42 GMT In-Reply-To: <8761ee2d5l.fsf@vsl28t2g.ww011> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100993 Archived-At: > > Now I'll try to read the quide on the wiki, in small part, and > > replace my Ido habits with Icicles-related ones. >=20 > Interesting. It would be nice, if you could follow-up this thread > with your findings after a while.. >=20 > PS: As far as I checked (default) Ido worked only for files and > buffers. 3rd-party Ido library `ido-ubiquitous.el' mitigates this. https://github.com/technomancy/ido-ubiquitous > And its keybinding RET clashed with (default) icomplete-mode. I > switched Ido off because it confused my small brain. Is Icicles in > this respect somehow smoother? Dunno. Ido mode is incompatible with Icicle mode. But you can get behavior somewhat similar to that of Ido while in Icicle mode. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Icicles_-_Ido_and_IswitchB. Not that I recommend that. Anyway, Icicles is compatible with Icomplete mode (and with IswitchB). And because `icomplete-mode' computes all completions each time it is invoked, and because Icicles provides incremental completion (recompleting each time you type or delete a char in the minibuffer - you can toggle this using `C-#'), you sometimes want to turn Icomplete mode off (e.g., when there are zillions of matches), you can toggle Icomplete mode on the fly, using `C-M-#'. http://www.emacswiki.org/Icicles_-_Icompletion#UsingIciclesWithIcomplete