gnus download newsrc?

gnus download newsrc?

[E. Hoffmann]

Hello all.

I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver including 
authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full list 
of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't show 
up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.

Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full list 
of newsgroups?

erch

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Andreas Politz]

"E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:

> Hello all.
>
> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver including 
> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full list 
> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't show 
> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>
> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full list 
> of newsgroups?
>
> erch


In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  Now
locate your news-server and press 'RET'.

Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.

2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.

Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.

-ap

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:40:43 +0200 Andreas Politz <politza@fh-trier.de> wrote: 

AP> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
>> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver including 
>> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
>> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full list 
>> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't show 
>> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>> 
>> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full list 
>> of newsgroups?

AP> In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  Now
AP> locate your news-server and press 'RET'.

AP> Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.

AP> 2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.

AP> Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.

Should the manual in (gnus) Finding the News mention this perhaps?
Right now it only talks about foreign groups but doesn't mention `^'
which turns out to be essential.

Ted

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[E. Hoffmann]

Ted Zlatanov schrieb:

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:40:43 +0200 Andreas Politz <politza@fh-trier.de> 
wrote: 
> 
> AP> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
>>> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver 
including 
>>> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
>>> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full 
list 
>>> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't 
show 
>>> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>>> 
>>> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full 
list 
>>> of newsgroups?
> 
> AP> In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  
Now
> AP> locate your news-server and press 'RET'.
> 
> AP> Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.
> 
> AP> 2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.
> 
> AP> Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.
> 
> Should the manual in (gnus) Finding the News mention this perhaps?
> Right now it only talks about foreign groups but doesn't mention `^'
> which turns out to be essential.
>

This could be of great help, for there I looked and didn't find it.

erch

> Ted

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Andreas Politz]

"E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:

> Ted Zlatanov schrieb:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:40:43 +0200 Andreas Politz <politza@fh-trier.de> 
> wrote: 
>> 
>> AP> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
>>>> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver 
> including 
>>>> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
>>>> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full 
> list 
>>>> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't 
> show 
>>>> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>>>> 
>>>> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full 
> list 
>>>> of newsgroups?
>> 
>> AP> In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  
> Now
>> AP> locate your news-server and press 'RET'.
>> 
>> AP> Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.
>> 
>> AP> 2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.
>> 
>> AP> Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.
>> 
>> Should the manual in (gnus) Finding the News mention this perhaps?
>> Right now it only talks about foreign groups but doesn't mention `^'
>> which turns out to be essential.
>>
>
> This could be of great help, for there I looked and didn't find it.
>
> erch
>
>> Ted

I was just remembered, how much time I needed, to figure this out.

BTW, while you're in the server-buffer, you may want to enable the
agent, in order to cache the news header.

-ap

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[E. Hoffmann]

Andreas Politz schrieb:

> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
> 
>> Ted Zlatanov schrieb:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:40:43 +0200 Andreas Politz <politza@fh-trier.de> 
>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> AP> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
>>>>> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver 
>> including 
>>>>> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates 
.newsrc-
>>>>> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a 
full 
>> list 
>>>>> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't 
>> show 
>>>>> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full 
>> list 
>>>>> of newsgroups?
>>> 
>>> AP> In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  
>> Now
>>> AP> locate your news-server and press 'RET'.
>>> 
>>> AP> Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.
>>> 
>>> AP> 2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.
>>> 
>>> AP> Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.
>>> 
>>> Should the manual in (gnus) Finding the News mention this perhaps?
>>> Right now it only talks about foreign groups but doesn't mention `^'
>>> which turns out to be essential.
>>>
>>
>> This could be of great help, for there I looked and didn't find it.
>>
>> erch
>>
>>> Ted
> 
> I was just remembered, how much time I needed, to figure this out.
> 
> BTW, while you're in the server-buffer, you may want to enable the
> agent, in order to cache the news header.
> 
> -ap
Good. Done. Thanks. Erch

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[E. Hoffmann]

Andreas Politz schrieb:

> "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> writes:
> 
>> Hello all.
>>
>> I tried using emacs gnus newsreader.  Contact with my newsserver 
including 
>> authinfo works fine, but I just get 4 newsgroups.  Gnus creates .newsrc-
>> dribble.  I must have a blind spot, I don't find how to download a full 
list 
>> of available newsgroup from my server.  gnus-activate-new-groups won't 
show 
>> up anything, neiter does A z nor A k.
>>
>> Excuse me if this is a too trivial question.  How do I download a full 
list 
>> of newsgroups?
>>
>> erch
> 
> 
> In the *Groups* buffer press '^'. This brings up the server buffer.  Now
> locate your news-server and press 'RET'.
> 
> Subscribe to groups you want to read with 'u'.
> 
> 2 times 'q' and they should pop up in your *Groups* buffer.


Thanks a lot!  Next step will be learning the shortcuts and setting up the 
mail function.  This is promising.

 
> Why does this have to be so painful, you ask ? I don't know.

Oh, not so painful after all.  The only painful thing for me was not finding 
it in the documentation.

erch


> -ap

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:11:50 +0200 "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> wrote: 

EH> Thanks a lot!  Next step will be learning the shortcuts and setting
EH> up the mail function.  This is promising.

Please keep notes on what you find annoying, hard, unpleasant, or all of
the above while learning Gnus.  We (Gnus developers) get very few of
those reports.  You may also want to subscribe to the Gnus "ding"
mailing list and to the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup.

Ted

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[E. Hoffmann]

Ted Zlatanov schrieb:

> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:11:50 +0200 "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> 
wrote: 
> 
> EH> Thanks a lot!  Next step will be learning the shortcuts and setting
> EH> up the mail function.  This is promising.
> 
> Please keep notes on what you find annoying, hard, unpleasant, or all of
> the above while learning Gnus.  We (Gnus developers) get very few of
> those reports.  You may also want to subscribe to the Gnus "ding"
> mailing list and to the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup.
> 
> Ted

Sent a subscribe request to ding and subscribed gnu.emacs.gnus. Thanks for 
the hint.  Sure I'll have do do some reading and experimenting first ;)

erch

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:01:39 +0200 "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> wrote: 

EH> Sent a subscribe request to ding and subscribed gnu.emacs.gnus. Thanks for 
EH> the hint.  Sure I'll have do do some reading and experimenting first ;)

I forgot to mention that you can read ding through GMane over NNTP
(nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.gnus.general).  You don't have to
subscribe (but you have to confirm to post the first time) and it has
archives going quite far back.

For anyone unaware, GMane is a great resource and has most mailing lists
as newsgroups, including emacs-devel.

Ted

Re: gnus download newsrc?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:11:50 +0200 "E. Hoffmann" <erichhoffmann@gmx.de> wrote: 

EH> Oh, not so painful after all.  The only painful thing for me was not finding 
EH> it in the documentation.

I added links and info about the Server buffer in the Gnus manual, in
the getting started section.

Thanks
Ted