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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321208 Archived-At: Hi Alan, On 02/07/2024 23:12, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Which brings us back again to the question why C-x 4 ? As > somebody (you, perhaps?) mentioned, we have C-x w bindings for window > operations. Why not C-x w instead? Not me, but 'C-x w' might be reasonable. I think the main downside is the presence of the different binding for 'C-x C-w', meaning that typing 'C-x w' too quickly might lead to the wrong result. And one would likely type the window related sequences quickly.