From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: bind a hotkey to toggle variable Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: <81A24015444942AA97381CA800DCC0D7@us.oracle.com> References: <4314c1f70907110928j2b12bc95v51e4c785a9fee6f2@mail.gmail.com><428DAEDA942B4A9B8ABBD00EF40F54DB@us.oracle.com><4314c1f70907121936r6a74003aya2bb42b1bfb56d35@mail.gmail.com> <4314c1f70907122012j638e717cw984a0defd893455f@mail.gmail.com> <00EDDADB1DF84973BE9BE9A6FC7D31A2@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247474887 19603 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2009 08:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 'tiefeng wu' To: Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 13 10:48:00 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQHCZ-0006gP-W7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:48:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQHCZ-0001jx-GB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQHCA-0001ix-1M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQHC3-0001aq-SY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:47:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57990 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQHC3-0001aj-Kh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:41839 helo=rgminet12.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MQHC3-0002PA-4P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6D8l0Kd017848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:47:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com (abhmt003.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6D8lSNs019572; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:47:28 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.88.28) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:47:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcoDk48jUwUkiwBlSFGe+gdIKLTZXQAAaOyQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt003.oracle.com [141.146.116.12] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4A5AF498.00E8:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66011 Archived-At: > > Frankly, I'm always surprised that, 20-30 years after the > > introduction of graphic displays and window managers, most > > people still use Emacs windows, not frames, for most buffers. > > That Emacs doesn't play very well with non-nil > > `pop-up-frames' could explain that in part, but why people > > still use Emacs windows so much is generally a mystery to me. > > For me it's easier to find the GNU Emacs running on host (or server) > A and then navigating through its buffers than to find buffer > frame 1 which could have log from host (or server) A or B or C or. Easier than what? I have no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you're referring to terminal-mode frames? If so, that's a different subject - I was speaking of using a graphic display (window mgr) with Emacs frames vs using it with Emacs windows. I wasn't talking about the new multi-term thing for non-graphic use of Emacs. And there is no problem choosing among buffers, whether you use Emacs windows or frames. FWIW, I rarely choose among frames (if that's what you meant to contrast); I typically choose among buffers. Whether a buffer that is chosen is displayed in a one-window frame or in a window among several in a frame is irrelevant to choosing the buffer. I mention this because I get the impression you are perhaps contrasting choosing a buffer with choosing a frame (?). But I really don't know what you're trying to say.