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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::429 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120426 Archived-At: On 15.05.2019 23:57, Ergus wrote: > I know, but the problem is something I can even fix, but if there is not > agreement about how to fix it, or even if it should be changed, so it > will be just a bug more but like whole-line-or-region behavior, initial > script for new users, better defaults, indent-with-tabs align with > spaces, the problem is really there, the attitude about core changes. What are you trying to accomplish with this email?