From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <812a118d-331e-4f09-aeda-483ee71b1127@default> References: <57278BA0.6010604@h-rommerskirchen.de> <4xr3dj7yrk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9638d58e-0c5c-a587-c3a6-272254597b88@yandex.ru> <85ff912d-1457-487d-80b2-412389876172@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462335946 23797 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 04:25:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 04:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, Heinz Rommerskirchen To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 06:25:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axoNP-0005bX-GB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 06:25:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45660 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoNL-0006G1-Fm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:25:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33459) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoNB-000613-72 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoMz-0005AW-Gt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoMz-00059h-E2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axoMw-0001Nx-2U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 04:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23426 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23426-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23426.14623358755284 (code B ref 23426); Wed, 04 May 2016 04:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 04:24:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axoMV-0001NA-7w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axoMT-0001Mu-2W for 23426@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u444OPZG032272 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 04:24:26 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u444OOjv003515 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 04:24:25 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u444OMKN032509; Wed, 4 May 2016 04:24:23 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117712 Archived-At: > > Do I understand correctly (forgive me if wrong; I have not > > studied this, and my Emacs 25 build is quite old) that `A' > > in Dired is now bound by default to a command that requires > > a user to have an external `grep' command? (This was not > > the case previously.) >=20 > Yusss. And 'find', too. Ugh. Hard to believe this got accepted, replacing a perfectly good command that everyone could use (and has used, for decades) - no dependency on anything outside Emacs, worked on all platforms. This new feature should have been added as, uh, err, well, just a new feature - a new command, totally unrelated to existing `A' etc. Bad idea to usurp `A' for a command that requires a user to have `grep' and `find'. Bad Emacs. But it seems that the new trend in Emacs Dev is to willy nilly replace longstanding stuff, rather than just introducing new stuff, letting users experiment with it, and after years of experience and feedback PERHAPS change some default behavior to make better use of it by default. Should have just added this to an ELPA repository, as something optional that users might want to try out.