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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, Heinz Rommerskirchen <heinz@h-rommerskirchen.de>
Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:24:22 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <812a118d-331e-4f09-aeda-483ee71b1127@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d67abc0e-c956-ca43-d6b5-a9dab2caa630@yandex.ru>

> > Do I understand correctly (forgive me if wrong; I have not
> > studied this, and my Emacs 25 build is quite old) that `A'
> > in Dired is now bound by default to a command that requires
> > a user to have an external `grep' command?  (This was not
> > the case previously.)
> 
> Yusss. And 'find', too.

Ugh.  Hard to believe this got accepted, replacing a perfectly
good command that everyone could use (and has used, for decades) -
no dependency on anything outside Emacs, worked on all platforms.

This new feature should have been added as, uh, err, well, just
a new feature - a new command, totally unrelated to existing `A'
etc.  Bad idea to usurp `A' for a command that requires a user
to have `grep' and `find'.  Bad Emacs.

But it seems that the new trend in Emacs Dev is to willy nilly
replace longstanding stuff, rather than just introducing new
stuff, letting users experiment with it, and after years of
experience and feedback PERHAPS change some default behavior
to make better use of it by default.

Should have just added this to an ELPA repository, as something
optional that users might want to try out.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 17:17 bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Heinz Rommerskirchen
2016-05-02 17:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 17:45   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 18:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03  1:18   ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 16:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 23:08       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 17:22     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 19:00       ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 20:59         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04  2:05           ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04  2:34             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04  4:24               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-05-04 15:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <<838tzpkgtj.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:31                   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:39                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:04                       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <<83r3dhizis.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:32                       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04  5:00 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 10:32   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 13:32     ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 13:49       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 15:31         ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
     [not found]       ` <<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:39         ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:53           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:10             ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:20               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:25                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 18:06                   ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:28               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<CAFyQvY0KYfeg9-f8DiCJcEy5-W=yRFykLLpCHRtCeqzz9Bdi0g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<3ba077a2-21e0-9799-4f8b-c07bd1623853@yandex.ru>
     [not found]   ` <<<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<7da95e19-50ff-4ca5-a5b8-2a7f65c2a7cd@default>
     [not found]         ` <<6cf9e2bf-fa90-3783-b30a-9021074790b0@yandex.ru>
     [not found]           ` <<93badbbc-31f6-409d-8dff-d67e9202deca@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83lh3piyvq.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:23               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]         ` <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:39           ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 18:20             ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 20:09               ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 21:13                 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 23:44                     ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 17:01               ` Eli Zaretskii

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