From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26712: other-window/frame versions of find-library Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <81105fc0-7710-4825-a6a1-ce769b980ef7@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1493498059 11746 195.159.176.226 (29 Apr 2017 20:34:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:34:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "Charles A. Roelli" , 26712@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 29 22:34:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z49-0002pK-8h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:34:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42368 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z4E-000731-Nd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z49-00072v-47 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z45-0008SX-W1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z45-0008SS-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z45-0003nT-Mp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26712 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26712-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26712.149349802214557 (code B ref 26712); Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26712) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2017 20:33:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z3l-0003mj-Qg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d4Z3j-0003mQ-PT for 26712@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v3TKXNxt029054 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:33:23 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v3TKXMIR024234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:33:23 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v3TKXK5Z028468; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:33:21 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6767.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:132118 Archived-At: > Attached is a patch to add other-window/frames version of the > `find-library' command. >=20 > BTW, after I added the two new commands and rebuilt Emacs (with just > `make'), I could not complete to them with `M-x find-library- TAB'. I > could only do this after loading the `find-func' library that contains > them. So I ran `make bootstrap' instead and then I could complete to > them as expected. I guess this means the autoloads had not been updated > with just `make'... which command should I have run? Bootstrapping > takes awhile. FWIW, I proposed this in March 2007 ("Please add `find-library-other-window'") http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg01073.html I was told not to propose new features at that time. I proposed it again in June 2007 ("how about a find-library-other-window command?", http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-06/msg01306.html). That thread was hijacked to a discussion about simulating all `-other-*' commands automatically (still one of Stefan's quests, I believe). I more than once tried to bring the discussion back on topic. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-06/msg01319.html ["This is all beginning to sound a bit complex. Perhaps worth exploring, but, in the meantime, could we at least add `find-library-other-window'? ;-)"] RMS, at least, responded favorably, asking for a patch. Juri complained that "polluting the namespace is not a good thing. There are too many commands that display a new buffer, and don't have the duplicate name with the `-other-window' suffix, and adding more redundant commands will increase the mess." I sent the patch anyway. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-06/msg01428.html RMS agreed to it and asked that someone install it. Juri complained that the code was repetitive for the 3 commands. It was never installed. Glad to see it finally added to Emacs. I've been using it for 10 years. I bind it to `C-x 4 l'. (I never use plain `find-library'.)