From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation' Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:23:44 +0200 Message-ID: <80wqa132j3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <80bnre44fc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408659924 16535 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2014 22:25:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18308@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Gavin Smith Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 00:25:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XKanG-0008Eq-5x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:25:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34348 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKanF-0001T5-Fn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKan6-0001Qc-Rp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKan0-0000lq-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42254) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKan0-0000l3-LX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKamz-0001n6-LP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <80bnre44fc.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18308 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18308-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18308.14086598476809 (code B ref 18308); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18308) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2014 22:24:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49197 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKam6-0001lk-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:33213 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKam4-0001lG-Ew for 18308@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from CHOUNEK ([2.2.154.52]) by mwinf5d24 with ME id haPx1o00E185hBW03aPxf9; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:23:58 +0200 X-ME-Helo: CHOUNEK X-ME-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:23:58 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.2.154.52 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92584 Archived-At: Dear Eli et alii, Looping also through Gavin. For your information I have filed these two bugs to texinfo. http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?43045 http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?43042 During the discussion on bug-texinfo@gnu.org concerning texinfo bug#43042, I received the following comment from Gavin Smith: > I don't think it is actually the case that references should use > normalized whitespace. For example, there is the following in the bash > manual, node "Shell Operation": > > 3. Parses the tokens into simple and compound commands (*note Shell > Commands::). > > Here we have a newline and initial line indent in the middle of the > node name "Shell Commands", but following this cross-reference works > fine. I a nutshell, there are cases of node references where the info viewer is not bothered by internal multiple spaces (this cross reference inside bash manual), and other cases where the info viewer cannot handle it (the case of node "(texinfo) @- @hyphenation" pointer in menu entry of upper node). So, on second thoughts, I am thinking in the end that for consistency, the info viewer not only should, but also _must_ be corrected. I am even speculating that in the case of the manual menu entry, probably it was intentional to put more spaces for the entry to read better (as @- and @hyphenation are two different commands, isn't it a good idea to put a little more space between them). Maybe the texinfo manual could also be corected as follows (with two spaces in label, and one space in node pointer): * @t{@@- @@hyphenation}: @t{@@- @@hyphenation}. Helping @TeX{} with hyphenation points. ie by using the * LABEL: NODE. TITLE construct instead of the * NODE:: TITLE construct. Well... this is not your business, but if Gabin had read this email up to this point, he may have an opinion. VBR, Vincent.