From: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr> To: Org mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> , emacs-devel@gnu.org Cc: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr>, "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> Subject: Re: Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:30:46 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <80oc6e5mnt.fsf@gmail.com> (raw) Hi, Good to see that I am not the only one needing that sort of things. Maybe an example is better to explain what I need, imagine that I have the following two paragraphs: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aaaa aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaaa aa a aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa aaaaa aaaaa\\ bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bbbb bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbbb bb b bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb bbbbb bbbbb ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc cccc ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc ccccc cc c ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc cccc c ccc ccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc ccccc ccccc\\ ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd dddd ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd ddddd dd d ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd dddd d ddd ddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd ddddd ddddd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- after filling I wish that it would become ----------------------------------------------------------------------- aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aaaa aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaaa aa a aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa aaaaa aaaaa\\ bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bbbb bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbbb bb b bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb bbbbb bbbbb ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc cccc ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc ccccc cc c ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc cccc c ccc ccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc ccccc ccccc\\ ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd dddd ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd ddddd dd d ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd dddd d ddd ddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd ddddd ddddd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Where I assumed that alineas are separated by either an empty line or a tailing `\\' while paragraphs are separated by just an empty line. What you say (making distinct separation of paragraph for motion and of fillable-region) is more than what I needed, because I assumed that alineas and paragraphs are not completely separate things, as an alinea is always a subset of a paragraph. Concerning EUPP, after more thinking, I realized that alineas are not the good approach: actually I don't need any special filling but rather to disable filling in some occasions, and for that using the fill-paragraph-function is a better approach. So, for Org I will just install emacs-24 --- or at least the fill package, is it backward compatible with an emacs-23 ? Thanks for the feedback, Vincent.
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From: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr> To: Org mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org Cc: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr>, "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> Subject: Re: Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:30:46 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <80oc6e5mnt.fsf@gmail.com> (raw) Hi, Good to see that I am not the only one needing that sort of things. Maybe an example is better to explain what I need, imagine that I have the following two paragraphs: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aaaa aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaaa aa a aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa aaaaa aaaaa\\ bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bbbb bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbbb bb b bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb bbbbb bbbbb ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc cccc ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc ccccc cc c ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc cccc c ccc ccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc ccccc ccccc\\ ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd dddd ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd ddddd dd d ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd dddd d ddd ddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd ddddd ddddd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- after filling I wish that it would become ----------------------------------------------------------------------- aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aaaa aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaaa aa a aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa aaaaa aaaaa\\ bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bbbb bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbbb bb b bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb bbbbb bbbbb ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc cccc ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc ccccc cc c ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc cccc c ccc ccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc ccccc ccccc\\ ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd dddd ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd ddddd dd d ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd dddd d ddd ddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd ddddd ddddd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Where I assumed that alineas are separated by either an empty line or a tailing `\\' while paragraphs are separated by just an empty line. What you say (making distinct separation of paragraph for motion and of fillable-region) is more than what I needed, because I assumed that alineas and paragraphs are not completely separate things, as an alinea is always a subset of a paragraph. Concerning EUPP, after more thinking, I realized that alineas are not the good approach: actually I don't need any special filling but rather to disable filling in some occasions, and for that using the fill-paragraph-function is a better approach. So, for Org I will just install emacs-24 --- or at least the fill package, is it backward compatible with an emacs-23 ? Thanks for the feedback, Vincent.
next reply other threads:[~2011-02-14 21:30 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2011-02-14 21:30 Vincent Belaïche [this message] 2011-02-14 21:30 ` Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks) Vincent Belaïche 2011-02-15 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below -- 2011-03-13 15:48 Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks) Vincent Belaïche 2011-03-13 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-03-13 13:49 Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks) Vincent Belaïche 2011-03-12 21:09 Vincent Belaïche 2011-03-12 21:09 ` Vincent Belaïche 2011-03-12 22:41 ` Karl Berry 2011-03-13 3:59 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-02-16 6:42 Vincent Belaïche 2011-02-16 6:42 ` Vincent Belaïche 2011-02-16 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-02-16 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-02-13 8:47 Vincent Belaïche 2011-02-14 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
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