* bug#37930: 26.3; Elisp manual: please remove index entry `seq library'
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@ 2019-10-26 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2019-10-26 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Drew Adams @ 2019-10-26 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii, Drew Adams; +Cc: 37930
> tags 37930 wontfix
> close 37930
>
> > commentary, in a Lisp library
> > dynamic-library-alist
> > find library
> > image-load-path-for-library
> > library
> > library compilation
> > library header comments
> > library search
> > Lisp library
> > load-library
> > locate-library
> > seq library
> >
> > `seq library' does not belong here.
>
> Disagree. You are assessing index entries from
> a completely wrong angle.
What angle is that?
You disagree that `seq library' doesn't belong.
Fair enough. Why do you think it belongs?
You didn't address the substance of the report:
lack of a reason why it should be present.
What's a good reason why it, alone among our
many libraries, should have an index entry of
that form?
That's what begs justifying. There's no need
to justify some imagined purist consistency.
There should be no special need for a reason
to remove it, if there's no reason to have it.
Maybe there's a good reason for entry `seq
library'. It's not obvious to me. If so,
please say what it is. I'd like to understand.
> > (Either that or entries also belong for
> > some or all of the umpteen other libraries
> > provided in an Emacs distribution.)
>
> May I suggest to re-read the well-known
> quotation about consistency by Ralph Waldo
> Emerson?
>
> There's no need for consistency here.
(Once again, BTW) no one has argued for blind
and systematic consistency. That's never a
requirement. And I'd be the last person to
argue for that.
Occam's razor: If there's no good reason to
add `seq library', why add it? If there's a
reason for it _then_ close the report (after
providing the reason, please).
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* bug#37930: 26.3; Elisp manual: please remove index entry `seq library'
2019-10-26 15:00 ` bug#37930: 26.3; Elisp manual: please remove index entry `seq library' Drew Adams
@ 2019-10-26 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-10-26 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 37930
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:00:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 37930@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > > commentary, in a Lisp library
> > > dynamic-library-alist
> > > find library
> > > image-load-path-for-library
> > > library
> > > library compilation
> > > library header comments
> > > library search
> > > Lisp library
> > > load-library
> > > locate-library
> > > seq library
> > >
> > > `seq library' does not belong here.
> >
> > Disagree. You are assessing index entries from
> > a completely wrong angle.
>
> What angle is that?
That of consistency. As expressed by "doesn't belong".
> You disagree that `seq library' doesn't belong.
> Fair enough. Why do you think it belongs?
That's a wrong question, when talking about index entries. the
important question is "is it useful?"
> Maybe there's a good reason for entry `seq
> library'. It's not obvious to me.
Not obvious to you doesn't mean you should file a bug report, or that
we should continue discussing this.
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* bug#37930: 26.3; Elisp manual: please remove index entry `seq library'
@ 2019-10-25 20:53 Drew Adams
2019-10-26 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Drew Adams @ 2019-10-25 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 37930
These are all of the index entries with "library" in them:
commentary, in a Lisp library
dynamic-library-alist
find library
image-load-path-for-library
library
library compilation
library header comments
library search
Lisp library
load-library
locate-library
seq library
`seq library' does not belong here. (Either that or entries also belong
for some or all of the umpteen other libraries provided in an Emacs
distribution.)
In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
of 2019-08-29
Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763
Configured using:
`configure --without-dbus --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
--without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''
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* bug#37930: 26.3; Elisp manual: please remove index entry `seq library'
2019-10-25 20:53 Drew Adams
@ 2019-10-26 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-10-26 7:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 37930
tags 37930 wontfix
close 37930
thanks
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
>
> commentary, in a Lisp library
> dynamic-library-alist
> find library
> image-load-path-for-library
> library
> library compilation
> library header comments
> library search
> Lisp library
> load-library
> locate-library
> seq library
>
> `seq library' does not belong here.
Disagree. You are assessing index entries from a completely wrong
angle.
> (Either that or entries also belong for some or all of the umpteen
> other libraries provided in an Emacs distribution.)
May I suggest to re-read the well-known quotation about consistency by
Ralph Waldo Emerson?
There's no need for consistency here.
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