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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209419 Archived-At: Is this with or without the extra dependencies added? Phil On Tue, November 15, 2016 11:42 am, Jostein Kjønigsen wrote: > Functional regressions - more info > ================================ > > > Regarding the functional regressions and the test-results found so far, > the most obvious test-case I could find for failed XML-parsing was eww. > > So I tried to load www.google.com using eww, and as I suspected, it > failed. It even specifically failed with saying the following: > >> Contacting host: www.google.com:80 >> libxml2 library not found > > Phil: This should be fairly easy for you to verify locally before > publishing a new test-build, right? > > -- > Jostein Kjønigsen > 🥓 > jostein@kjonigsen.net / jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net / jostein@gmail.com > https://jostein.kjonigsen.net > > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jostein Kjønigsen wrote: > >> Hey everyone. >> >> >> Sorry about the slow response. I've been ill, and haven't had time to >> test this in a production environment until now. >> >> I've got good news and I got bad news. I'll try to be as short and >> concise as possible. >> >> >> Test setup >> ========= >> >> >> In my testing, I've taken the provided Emacs 25-build, downloaded the >> corresponding GNU libraries prebuilt by ezwinports, and combined this >> output in a common Emacs folder from where I've run my tests. >> >> My tool for automating this process is available online[1]. >> >> >> >> Performance results >> ================== >> >> >> My quickest attempt to do semi-scientific testing is checking with >> Windows Performance Recorder, how long a sustained 100% CPU usage >> period is during startup on my current Emacs-configuration[2]. >> >> The results are below: >> >> >> * Emacs 25.1 (Phil's build): 7 seconds >> * Emacs 25.1 (GNU's release-build): 12 seconds >> * Emacs 24.5 (GNU's release-build): 7 seconds >> >> >> Phil's build thus has the same performance characteristics as Emacs >> 24.5 for Windows. >> >> >> And I'd love to say that this was the end of the story... but... I >> like to do real world testing too :) >> >> >> Functional Regressions >> ==================== >> >> >> I've found functional regressions in Phil's build, especially in what >> seems to be handling of incoming XML data from inferior processes. This >> error is not found in the official GNU build currently published for >> Emacs 25.1, nor in Emacs 24.5. >> >> >> My use-case is fairly simple: >> >> >> * Ensure eslint is installed globally in your environment (Install >> NodeJS, and then do "npm install -g eslint") >> * Open a JS-file which should trigger eslint warnings. >> * Enable flycheck-mode (which in turn will invoke eslint). >> >> >> In this case, opening a file with eslint warnings yields no in-buffer >> flycheck errors, but instead a error-message in the minibuffer saying >> something to the extent of this: >> >>> Suspicious state from syntax checker javascript-eslint: Flycheck >>> checker javascript-eslint returned non-zero exit code 1, but its output >>> contained no errors: >> 8"?>>> line="13" column="7" severity="error" message="'tsify' is >>> assigned a value but never used. (no-unused-vars)" >>> source="eslint.rules.no-unused- vars" />>> severity="error" message="Strings must use doublequote. (quotes)" >>> source="eslint.rules.quotes" />>> severity="error" message="Strings must use doublequote. (quotes)" >>> source="eslint.rules.quotes" /> >> >> Is Emacs not able to load libxml? Are DLLs linked correctly? Is there >> any way I can help and do diagnostics on my end? >> >> This seems like a symptom of a pretty critical issue which will needs >> to be resolved before any new release-build can be published. Let me know >> how I can help. >> >> >> References: >> >> >> [1] >> https://github.com/josteink/machine-build/blob/master/tools/emacs-win32 >> -bootstrap.cmd >> [2] >> https://github.com/josteink/machine-build/blob/master/dotfiles/emacs/do >> t-emacs.el >> >> -- >> Jostein Kjønigsen >> 🥓 >> jostein@kjonigsen.net / jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net / jostein@gmail.com >> https://jostein.kjonigsen.net >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016, at 07:12 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >>>> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >>>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jostein@kjonigsen.net, >>>> npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 16:55:27 +0000 >>>> >>>> >>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It's okay. In general, if you don't strip the binaries, it >>>>> would be better to also include -g3 in CFLAGS (so that there's >>>>> debug info there, and reports about crashes can be accompanied by >>>>> meaningful information), but for a release it is less important >>>>> than for a pretest, so I see no need for yet another build. >>>> >>>> Confused? You mean to have four builds in total? >>>> >>> >>> No, of course not. Just 2: one for x86, the other x86_64. >>> >>> >>>> Or you want me to configure with: >>>> >>>> >>>> CFLAGS="-O2 -static -g3" >>>> >>> >>> That's the best if you don't strip the binaries, yes. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, and sorry for the confusion I caused. >>> >> >