* starting a clock when not in org-mode
@ 2011-05-13 9:17 Eric S Fraga
2011-05-13 11:43 ` Matt Lundin
2011-05-13 11:46 ` Sebastien Vauban
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-05-13 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
I have been using the clocking features of org mode more and more as
time goes on. Brilliant feature. However, I am having problems with
one specific use case:
The org-clock-in method works very well when I am pro-actively deciding
what tasks to work on, e.g. through the agenda view. However, in some
cases, I am reacting to external events (emails, somebody coming to see
me, phone call, etc). I have a number of tasks which are more general
and which capture this type of activity (admin, teaching, ...). If I
happen to be in an org mode buffer, then "C-u M-x org-clock-in RET"
allows me to pick the particular task (as it will typically be in the
history) and clock it in. Works well.
If I am *not* in an org buffer (yes, this happens sometimes ;-), I
cannot do this as org-clock-in, even with the C-u arg, wants to find a
headline. Can anybody suggest how I can clock in to a previously
clocked task from any emacs mode?
My current solution is to tag these general catch-all tasks
with :clocked:, use the agenda search (C-c a m clocked), select the
appropriate one and start the clock. This seems clumsy and doesn't make
use of the history feature of org clocking, which seems a waste!
I have read Bernt's excellent document [1] but it doesn't help me for
this particular use. I've also searched the mailing list but to no
avail unfortunately.
Thanks,
eric
Footnotes:
[1] http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html
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: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.274.gd6aba.dirty)
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 9:17 starting a clock when not in org-mode Eric S Fraga
@ 2011-05-13 11:43 ` Matt Lundin
2011-05-13 11:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-05-13 12:32 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-05-13 11:46 ` Sebastien Vauban
1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Matt Lundin @ 2011-05-13 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Eric,
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
[...]
> The org-clock-in method works very well when I am pro-actively deciding
> what tasks to work on, e.g. through the agenda view. However, in some
> cases, I am reacting to external events (emails, somebody coming to see
> me, phone call, etc). I have a number of tasks which are more general
> and which capture this type of activity (admin, teaching, ...). If I
> happen to be in an org mode buffer, then "C-u M-x org-clock-in RET"
> allows me to pick the particular task (as it will typically be in the
> history) and clock it in. Works well.
>
> If I am *not* in an org buffer (yes, this happens sometimes ;-), I
> cannot do this as org-clock-in, even with the C-u arg, wants to find a
> headline. Can anybody suggest how I can clock in to a previously
> clocked task from any emacs mode?
I cannot reproduce this. Here are the steps I took.
- clocked into a headline
- clocked out
- switched buffer to *scratch* (I tried it a second time with a TeX
buffer, which also worked)
- typed C-u M-x org-clock-in
- selected 1 (the most recent task)
Org successfully clocked into the task in the background.
Best,
Matt
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 11:43 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2011-05-13 11:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-05-13 12:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-05-13 12:32 ` Bernt Hansen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2011-05-13 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On May 13, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> The org-clock-in method works very well when I am pro-actively deciding
>> what tasks to work on, e.g. through the agenda view. However, in some
>> cases, I am reacting to external events (emails, somebody coming to see
>> me, phone call, etc). I have a number of tasks which are more general
>> and which capture this type of activity (admin, teaching, ...). If I
>> happen to be in an org mode buffer, then "C-u M-x org-clock-in RET"
>> allows me to pick the particular task (as it will typically be in the
>> history) and clock it in. Works well.
>>
>> If I am *not* in an org buffer (yes, this happens sometimes ;-), I
>> cannot do this as org-clock-in, even with the C-u arg, wants to find a
>> headline. Can anybody suggest how I can clock in to a previously
>> clocked task from any emacs mode?
>
> I cannot reproduce this. Here are the steps I took.
I cannot reproduce it either. debug-on-error, and make a backtrace???
- Carsten
>
> - clocked into a headline
> - clocked out
> - switched buffer to *scratch* (I tried it a second time with a TeX
> buffer, which also worked)
> - typed C-u M-x org-clock-in
> - selected 1 (the most recent task)
>
> Org successfully clocked into the task in the background.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
- Carsten
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 11:53 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2011-05-13 12:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-05-13 12:18 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-05-13 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Matt Lundin, emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> On May 13, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:
[...]
>>
>> I cannot reproduce this. Here are the steps I took.
>
> I cannot reproduce it either. debug-on-error, and make a backtrace???
Argghhh... I cannot reproduce now either. Sigh. Very strange. <blush>
Everything works as I would like/expect! Sorry for the noise.
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: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.274.gd6aba.dirty)
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 12:12 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2011-05-13 12:18 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-05-13 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Matt Lundin, emacs-orgmode
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On May 13, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>
>>> I cannot reproduce this. Here are the steps I took.
>>
>> I cannot reproduce it either. debug-on-error, and make a backtrace???
>
>
> Argghhh... I cannot reproduce now either. Sigh. Very strange. <blush>
>
> Everything works as I would like/expect! Sorry for the noise.
Actually, to help redeem myself a little... the problem was that I was
trying to bind the org-clock-in command *with* argument to a key and
that's where I was going wrong. Silly elisp error: I did
: (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> <f9>") '(lambda () (interactive) (org-clock-in 4)))
instead of the correct
: (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> <f9>") '(lambda () (interactive) (org-clock-in '(4))))
Note the argument to org-clock-in. As the argument was wrong,
org-clock-in was trying to find a headline to clock in on, which is
perfectly logical of course!
Again, sorry for the noise and thanks for the speedy responses!
--
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.274.gd6aba.dirty)
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 11:43 ` Matt Lundin
2011-05-13 11:53 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2011-05-13 12:32 ` Bernt Hansen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-05-13 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> The org-clock-in method works very well when I am pro-actively deciding
>> what tasks to work on, e.g. through the agenda view. However, in some
>> cases, I am reacting to external events (emails, somebody coming to see
>> me, phone call, etc). I have a number of tasks which are more general
>> and which capture this type of activity (admin, teaching, ...). If I
>> happen to be in an org mode buffer, then "C-u M-x org-clock-in RET"
>> allows me to pick the particular task (as it will typically be in the
>> history) and clock it in. Works well.
>>
>> If I am *not* in an org buffer (yes, this happens sometimes ;-), I
>> cannot do this as org-clock-in, even with the C-u arg, wants to find a
>> headline. Can anybody suggest how I can clock in to a previously
>> clocked task from any emacs mode?
>
> I cannot reproduce this. Here are the steps I took.
>
> - clocked into a headline
> - clocked out
> - switched buffer to *scratch* (I tried it a second time with a TeX
> buffer, which also worked)
> - typed C-u M-x org-clock-in
> - selected 1 (the most recent task)
>
> Org successfully clocked into the task in the background.
I can't reproduce this either. Clocking in from any buffer works for
me.
Regards,
Bernt
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 9:17 starting a clock when not in org-mode Eric S Fraga
2011-05-13 11:43 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2011-05-13 11:46 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-05-13 12:14 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2011-05-13 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Eric,
Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been using the clocking features of org mode more and more as
> time goes on. Brilliant feature. However, I am having problems with
> one specific use case:
>
> The org-clock-in method works very well when I am pro-actively deciding
> what tasks to work on, e.g. through the agenda view. However, in some
> cases, I am reacting to external events (emails, somebody coming to see
> me, phone call, etc). I have a number of tasks which are more general
> and which capture this type of activity (admin, teaching, ...). If I
> happen to be in an org mode buffer, then "C-u M-x org-clock-in RET"
> allows me to pick the particular task (as it will typically be in the
> history) and clock it in. Works well.
>
> If I am *not* in an org buffer (yes, this happens sometimes ;-), I
> cannot do this as org-clock-in, even with the C-u arg, wants to find a
> headline. Can anybody suggest how I can clock in to a previously
> clocked task from any emacs mode?
My solution is to use C-c C-x C-j, eventually with C-u prefix, from any Emacs
buffer, thanks to:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(global-set-key (kbd "C-c C-x C-j") 'org-clock-goto)
#+end_src
This is sometimes bound locally by some modes. Then, I disable it locally:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
;; remove the binding of `C-c C-x', used by Org timeclocking commands
(add-hook 'nxml-mode-hook
(lambda ()
(define-key nxml-mode-map (kbd "C-c C-x") nil)))
#+end_src
> My current solution is to tag these general catch-all tasks
> with :clocked:, use the agenda search (C-c a m clocked), select the
> appropriate one and start the clock. This seems clumsy and doesn't make
> use of the history feature of org clocking, which seems a waste!
>
> I have read Bernt's excellent document [1] but it doesn't help me for
> this particular use. I've also searched the mailing list but to no
> avail unfortunately.
Does this help?
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sébastien Vauban
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* Re: starting a clock when not in org-mode
2011-05-13 11:46 ` Sebastien Vauban
@ 2011-05-13 12:14 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-05-13 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
"Sebastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:
[...]
> My solution is to use C-c C-x C-j, eventually with C-u prefix, from any Emacs
> buffer, thanks to:
Yes, this is the alternative approach I have been using (as opposed to
agenda search). However, it would appear that C-u org-clock-in actually
works as it should from any buffer, as Matt and Carsten have kindly
pointed out... I must have been doing something incredibly silly
earlier.
Thanks,
eric
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: using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.274.gd6aba.dirty)
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