From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: display-buffer-alist simplifications Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:52:40 -0700 Message-ID: <809847C57BC64AD7AAC3E93813669827@us.oracle.com> References: <87mxgem09k.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2A7EBD.7050300@gmx.at><87livooqt6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2B158B.1080101@gmx.at><87wrf8iyse.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2BEED2.5040608@gmx.at><8739hvu6lh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2C50E6.3020103@gmx.at><878vrnweju.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2D34D7.4040002@gmx.at><87r55cjvef.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311781983 27777 80.91.229.12 (27 Jul 2011 15:53:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 27 17:52:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm6Pq-0003DZ-Mr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:52:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58772 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm6Pq-0006yq-Cq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm6Po-0006uu-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:52:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm6Pn-0001nZ-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:52:55 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:36348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm6Pl-0001n0-I2; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6RFqm7x013693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:52:50 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6RFqj2l010223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:52:47 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6RFqeqm017690; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:52:40 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.50.86) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:52:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxMGgCc5H8o0x+DTnKH4WLHDu0RSwAS8MJA X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4E303452.004B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142394 Archived-At: > Alternatively, we could postpone the pretest and invest the time into > this issue now. IMO, reverting everything, or even a large portion of > it, would be extremely unkind to Martin's efforts, especially that the > only reason for that is our self-imposed date of pretest start. That > date is by no means sacred. We should cherish significant > contributions like this one much more than we cherish the schedule of > Emacs releases. 1+ Take the time. Get it right. There should be no hurry to get to Emacs 24. And if you do decide to take the time then you can probably thaw the feature freeze, at least for relatively predictably small new features. IOW, forget about the "self-imposed date of pretest start".