From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62029: 29.0.60; Allow users to customize eldoc buffer separator Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:13:28 +0300 Message-ID: <80746054-e2c2-f2d9-fa59-292cb8d26ada@gutov.dev> References: <0C40D168-54D5-47E9-8BD8-77CFCD70B895@gmail.com> <87355vdufe.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6uacadx.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6u2y7uj.fsf@gmail.com> <871qkqmzit.fsf@gmail.com> <61fd5d66-ca0b-f67d-df70-7906c32596de@gutov.dev> <87v8i1jr5v.fsf@gmail.com> <6c64f601-0c28-2993-e55a-042419e1623e@gutov.dev> <87ttxkrtz5.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20556"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Cc: 62029@debbugs.gnu.org, Yuan Fu To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 14 00:14:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5Cz-00059Z-2Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2023 00:14:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5Cj-0003Wv-48; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5Ce-0003Wb-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5Cd-0004e6-7L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5Cc-0004xx-G8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62029 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62029-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62029.168142402219051 (code B ref 62029); Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62029) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2023 22:13:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5CH-0004xD-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:42 -0400 Original-Received: from new3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.229]:60487) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pn5CC-0004ww-Rc for 62029@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:40 -0400 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D08582404; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gutov.dev; h=cc :cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t= 1681424011; x=1681427611; bh=yNtDe85wVcRlsCmQVDSnaITWLCXrrVx7/el t3IP12E4=; b=jR49CqM0Vb9BAVxajhnwaQm5rTLaUIRm58zqd3s9k4AtkKNmt7f yTG0+hyculkv+ROfIwtdZXGKk4hsOUOthGYLZZkUygLQjPsI2U63G7oW7nhKt9El Nj2S8o7aJtlaJCqNrNigUAvKoUF6Ik4Jm7ujzgT0VNM6ru6z2xIo9s5tkSgmhgYj HZUyOWuR8B2cb7+dpo+rl+jJkbvd6TSVXXR2UYlZxuQC8TCcuDicta2V1WGIxz/l 53aAKBinV2UUhi1Q9LKugqQk5+JkO08rD7uck8pA+8BgNXeOb1ufZ1TaeG9yB8ef r9nCUwgHG9f+Y5za/NZKASbFSmZapqjsdvw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1681424011; x=1681427611; bh=yNtDe85wVcRlsCmQVDSnaITWLCXrrVx7/el t3IP12E4=; b=iG402SoUUMWQv9qrEzR/kQ8Rbxc9Z79H8cO139QUscFshKT9tqd iAZTwMYbFZMD41mWBEyd7HTMMrDD/iIlov8ve0kWAmBwZKCRk+DFeatf7krGNmLb VDvYg/69Ys3buaYcZCrg7zNDVECrpSCQ6xnw/34+AGoZyzX03OgurMjEYCeexC3B 6ta9SN1kEEvei64+VvTbt2ldNUwNfT76k1Hl0j6oPSZjSncrtnf5ylQbIYFdOhYh mI2l4qyyQWPLf4q4aVE/xmx6irOqK/oSvfX02rHj/xb4e1ge676pgFHq92AJbndd nL0iXsu7HcouItNaOuamKpaK9VEWBEKSxbw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdekledgtdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfuffhvfevfhgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeffmhhi thhrhicuifhuthhovhcuoegumhhithhrhiesghhuthhovhdruggvvheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhephfeftdejleetffelhfffteefgfeggfejgfdtudeuvedttdetvdelffekvdeg udetnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepug hmihhtrhihsehguhhtohhvrdguvghv X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0e71465a:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259880 Archived-At: On 14/04/2023 00:53, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> Is this concept of "bouncing" acceptable to you in elisp-mode?  Do you >> think it will ever be accepted by other Emacs lisp developers that >> sometimes, when standing over a symbol with both a function and variable >> definition the two things will be documented in two separate lines?  I >> assume it won't, thus the Elisp setting of >> eldoc-echo-area-use-multiline-p to 1. > > I suggest you put it up for the discussion on emacs-devel after we > ensure that the flickering and bouncing situation has improved. E.g. personally, I would perhaps prefer it there was a failover from elisp-eldoc-funcall to elisp-eldoc-var-docstring, but that was composed in parallel with flymake-eldoc-function, to also show the compilation error when available. But that doesn't seem like it is provided by any of the existing options.